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05 Dec 2017 18:16:12
I think Bruce has had a decent season thus far, but I would like to see him rotating the team a bit better.

About 5 or 6 games into the season he really got the structure and balance right. If you have the balance right and a number of 'like for like' players. I really think you can rotate more.

For example Mourinio plays the same tean week in and week out just like Bruce. He ends up with a lot of injuries, and his players are buggered at the end of the season.

Furguson was the master of rotation, and it is different to tinkering. Rotation, you are keeping your spine, and what works, and roatating 1 or 2 players that are like for like every week.

These players can be rotated.

Grealish for Onamah
Hourihane for Lansbury
Taylor for Hutton
O'hare for Snodgrass
Jed for Samba for Terry
Lyden for Whelan

And a few more i'm sure.

Just 1 or 2 changes a week. You can keep players fresh, increase competition, develop youth and keep squad players happy. whilst keeping the spine and stucture and increase performance.

He has to rotate his squad based on injuries and it ends up being retroactive.

Thats what makes sense to me anyway.

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05 Dec 2017 19:25:43
I agree in principle, and on paper, and on places like this it makes sense, but you need the right sort of player, and the right quality with to replace.

Ferguson did this, you are right, and his squad players became legends, look at the little Norwegian! But his whole squad oozed quality, and world beaters, ours doesn’t, and in my opinion is fragile, I feel with this team, momentum is everything, not just with the results, but with the formation, and who’s in the team.
For me, we have a starting 11, that is a mid table prem side, we then have 11 more players trying to break in, that are a bottom 3 prem side.
If we mix them, the lesser players ‘could’ raise their games, but the opposite could also happen. And we can’t risk this.

We have to have a side that only the best play in, so if you make the team, you know you are there because you are the best on the day. We can’t have average players thinking they are playing because somebody else is resting. They know they won’t play the next week, so could be distracted, and cost us.

For me rotation works only with the very best.

Injuries happen through three things,

1) accident, bad tackle, trip etc
2) poor philosophy, warming up and down poorly, food and life style
3) poor mentality, anger, frustration etc

These guys are elite, two three matches a week, (180-270 minutes! ) will not kill them.

Pmsl at comparing Brucie with Ferguson and the chosen one!

05 Dec 2017 19:47:44
Last line sounds condescending, wasn’t meant like that at all, so I apologise! Just made me laugh that he mentionyin the same breath, I’m one of Brucies biggest allies on here, and I have to admit he is fit to lace their boots!

Sorry VillaSA wasn’t meant to patronise. Just a different opinion.

05 Dec 2017 20:06:31
Alright let's retract compare and say rather a facet of a broader strategy that I am comparing to greater managers that everyone can identify with.

Yes I do agree with your reasons for injury, however muscle fatigue can hit a player at anytime regardless how fit and elite they are, that's when long term injuries happen.

In terms of our starting team, I think its the most cohesion we have had in years. a lot of our fringe youth haven't been able to develop in our previous teams as our team and tactics changed like the weather.

Our team is pretty stable. I really think how can it be disastorous. Eg swap Whelan for Lyden one week and keep the core team. He can only improve in that enviroment.

05 Dec 2017 20:08:34
No stress Flackie, never took it that way.

05 Dec 2017 21:19:30
Thanks mate. glad you took it as it was meant!

05 Dec 2017 21:57:46
Lyden can’t replace anyone, he’s just had a serious operation yesterday.

05 Dec 2017 22:25:42
Well isn't that great news.

06 Dec 2017 12:50:55
Great thread and replies. I tend to agree with Flacks on this one momentum is the key I can't remember the last time we had a decent and stable side although VILLASA I can see where your coming from but it's all about getting out of this horrid league it's easier said than done so for me keep the same 11 each week until injuries or suspensions dictate what happens but great posts fellas.

05 Dec 2017 17:23:39
Is this site still the Villa site or what.

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05 Dec 2017 05:48:11
At least the City fans are well organised in their fancy dress. They've all come dressed as seats.

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05 Dec 2017 11:24:58
Funniest post for a long time!

05 Dec 2017 16:02:02
You can sit on the back of the bus with the cool kids for this thread TOTL, don't get comfortable though.


04 Dec 2017 17:51:11
A chance to improve the goal difference tonight and widen the gap in time for the January strengthening.

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04 Dec 2017 18:50:01
When u lost to Sheffield utd we didn't see you for weeks. Imagine if u lost to blues. How embarrassing would that be.

04 Dec 2017 21:57:26
Looked ropey against a bottom 3 team with 10 men, is it getting too cold and wet for the palasticos.

05 Dec 2017 05:49:30
Top of the league Can I ask what are you trying to prove coming on a Villa page? We are not bothard about you we hate Birmingham and Albion your not even a rival are you going to every clubs page or is it just us you are Obsessed with? Look at your history and come back and give it the big 1 when your team have won europe and the league and fa cups and league cups. You are nothing mate nothing at all. And don't get me started on that custard bowl you call a ground even our pies are better. Talk to somebody who cares about your tin pot club and leave us proper clubs alone because hate to tell you mate but doesn't matter how you go up as long as you do if you win the league and we go up in the playoffs end of the day we are still in the same league next year. Get them jogging boots on mate and jog on we are going up aswel!

05 Dec 2017 09:30:12
Bloody hell WTW that's a Winston Churchill speach there kidda.

05 Dec 2017 15:59:12
Shots fired 🔫


05 Dec 2017 18:33:38
Keep your heads down, WTW on the war path.

01 Dec 2017 22:10:58
Good result in the end, snatched their hand off, for that before game . On the first half performance, didn't think we would get anything . They where stronger, faster and wanted it more . Their work rate, closing us down was impressive. What ever Brucie said at half time certainly worked . Much more energy& effort, compleatly different . Poor old Albert never got a kick, Leeds had two on him every opportunity . As has been said Onomah just wasent at the races tonight . Weelen had a great game again and big Samba lasted well . Nice to see Landsbry get his goal . when he was at Forrest his best games where at No 10, perhaps worth a try . At least we showed the fight needed, in the end we deserved it . At least we have over a week to recover, before the next one . Onwards&Upwards Villaforever.

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01 Dec 2017 22:23:35
Cant improve on what you already have said davedean in the end we deserved that point second half it was like a different team.

02 Dec 2017 08:06:11
We are showing more bottle than in previous years and 1 point at Leeds is a good point,
Just wish Cardiff would stop winning?
But 20 games in and 36 points is better than I expected so now for millwall,

01 Dec 2017 21:54:00
Excellent second half but couldn't cope with their pressure or intensity in the first. Onomah was absolutely awful, Grealish was a breath of fresh air when he came on, hadn't seen him properly in so long forget how good technically and running at people he was. Davis also probably had his worst game, half expected him to struggle against Jansennn because he's a decent centre half (although he is an arrogant, cheating wet wipe) but he struggled against anyone he came up against tonight, even their tiny centre mides were bullying him at one point, but I suppose that's to be expected with a young lad, highlights the need for reinforcements asap! Taylor and Whelan stood out. After a shocking first half we ended up with more shots on target so really turned it round second half. A draw is a good result at Elland road and better than a loss, big month, need that second half performance for ninety minutes in the next few games.

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02 Dec 2017 08:10:42
Totally agree about onomah who was very poor,
For me he is a player who
lacks consistent performances
Grealish was outstanding
Whelan was also very good,
He reminds me of des bremmer who does not stand out but does the dirty work,

01 Dec 2017 20:41:45
Onomah just had one of the worst first halves I think I've ever seen a player have, did he complete a pass?

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01 Dec 2017 22:11:58
Maybe Lansbury or Grealish will replace him?

02 Dec 2017 09:59:46
Delighted for Lansbury and he looked pretty chuffed too! Agree about how poor JO was and just had one of those bad days at the office. With all our injuries it is great to have options of Supr Jack and Henry! Thought Whelan again silenced the doubters with another solid performance and as already said 1:1 draw is a sound result in the cauldron of Ellen Rd! UTV.

01 Dec 2017 16:21:50
Sorry Mainbob and Claret, not picking but Leeds had 4 points last year not 6.
We lost 2-0 away and drew 1-1 at Villa park, Kodjia with a late penalty.

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01 Dec 2017 16:45:46
I stand corrected!

01 Dec 2017 16:52:01
Leeds have a better record over villa last few years and hopefully it goes in our favour tonight
A win for us and defeats or lost points for Cardiff and sheff utd would be a big turning point but a loss tonight and Cardiff and sheff getting wins would be a big step backwards,
Still hoping for a 1- 0 win,
Come on you lions!

01 Dec 2017 17:40:34
I hope your right bob, COME ON YOU LIONS.

01 Dec 2017 15:22:00
Stop fretting, Mainbob. Leeds ain't that tough.

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01 Dec 2017 16:30:02
Not saying the Leeds team at present is tough but the fixture itself,

01 Dec 2017 11:16:50
Right prediction time is here to tonight,
Mine is a hard 1-0 win for villa,
Leeds is a very tough fixture anytime with there passionate fans,
But they took 6 points of us last season and now it's payback time,

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01 Dec 2017 13:07:15
Think your bang on mainbob its going to be quite a tough one as you said six points they took of us last year. Think its a one nil score line but don't know which way that's going to go. would love it to be us mate.

01 Dec 2017 15:20:58
Can't see nothing but a defeat tonight I'm afraid with our injuries piling up its going to be a tough winter bring on January and if we are still in touching distance of promotion I would bet my life on it that we go up I'd love to see Charlie Austin, Danny Ings and Crouch on loan for rest of season and 1 Centre Half #DREAMER.

01 Dec 2017 18:56:52
Why keep Bjarnason on the bench at O'Hare's expence

He's not going to play him!


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