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07 Feb 2021 08:24:36
I see according to press reports we are looking to offer Jack a new deal and make a move to sign Barkley permanently thoughts?


1.) 07 Feb 2021 08:42:26
Sign his best mate to keep your best player happy, makes sense but not for the right reasons.

2.) 07 Feb 2021 09:01:46
If Chelski want £30M for Barkley, I’d offer them £10M more for Mount, that’d confuse out of Southgate if they were on the pitch at the same time. 🤔


3.) 07 Feb 2021 09:31:41
He'll only have 👀 for Mason 💖👬🥰.

4.) 07 Feb 2021 14:45:56
I really rate Mount to be honest, but don’t think we’d have a hope in signing him. If Chelsea want to play sensible for Barkley, I’d do it, providing it was value we couldn’t get elsewhere.

5.) 07 Feb 2021 15:04:52
I personally don`t want Barkley near VP, full stop.
If we sign him, I have no doubt he will be a problem, he has all the traits of a J. Lescott, S. Ireland, performs when he feels like it.

6.) 07 Feb 2021 20:28:16
Looks like we are prepared to up Jack’s salary to £200k a week, and pay Chelsea £40 million for Barkley according to Sky Sports, I do like Barkley but not at £40 million better value to be had elsewhere.

7.) 07 Feb 2021 21:07:18
They bought him for £15M when he was playing arguably his best football, he’s gone backwards since then and is a few years older, £20M or less in a heavily impacted by C.V. market or walk away


8.) 07 Feb 2021 21:15:22
I wouldn’t go higher than £30 million for Barkley and even that will be a little too high.

9.) 07 Feb 2021 21:25:36
Reports stating Chelski want £40m.
No thank you not at that price. £20m sounds more realistic.
To be honest he has more average games than very good ones and that isn't worth forking out £40m imo.

10.) 08 Feb 2021 12:25:49
We could buy a serious player with 40 million, I like rafinha of Leeds or Harrison. Barkley’s England days are over there’s no way he’s worth 40 million.

11.) 08 Feb 2021 12:33:54
Not a chance we pay £40 million for Barkley, it goes against every bit of business the owners/ board have done since coming in. The clues are all there, this isn’t one I’d worry about.

The Grealish deal has potential, the owners have already clinged onto him when it looked most likely he’d leave twice. They know for us to progress we have to keep hold of him. It wasn’t that long ago we were neck and neck with Spurs fighting for European places, the difference was we sold our best players, where as they held onto there’s for that little bit longer and moved onto that next level. We can’t make that mistake again, and imo under this new leadership, we won’t make that mistake again.

12.) 08 Feb 2021 14:33:56
Sorry not for me at any price. I think there are more consistent performers out there we could look at. He's too hit and miss for my liking. We need players who like jack/ Luiz can influence games not to play a bit part. Goes missing far too much for me.



26 Jan 2021 12:10:42
Rumour from another website that Philogene-Bidace will sign for Club Brugge when his contract expires in the summer.


1.) 26 Jan 2021 16:17:49
I hope that’s not true John, he’s definitely one of the more talented youngsters in the group.

2.) 26 Jan 2021 17:00:10
I hope it’s not true either Mark, but European clubs like Brugge tend to give youth its chance early if they are good enough so in some cases youngsters like Philogene-Bidace may well decide to take the risk of playing first team football abroad than stew in the reserves with us waiting for the odd 15 minutes first team football here and there.

3.) 26 Jan 2021 18:24:04
Hopefully Villa will offer him a decent enough contract to convince him to stay, and then find him a worthwhile loan move. 🤞🏻.

4.) 26 Jan 2021 21:15:00
He has stated he wants to stay at Villa.

5.) 28 Jan 2021 12:33:47
Apparently Barcelona are interested.



12 Jan 2021 18:30:04
I see Bogarde has signed his first professional contract, hopefully the first of many of our talented youngsters to sign on the dotted line.


1.) 12 Jan 2021 19:23:18
Add Chrisene to that list.



27 Nov 2020 13:49:00
Just reading a book called The Odd Man Out, the story of Ron Saunders reign at Villa Park by Graham Denton I have to confess I am not normally one who reads this type of stuff but Saunders has always intrigued me as a manager so I thought I would give it a go. It's a real insightful piece which covers not only Saunders regime but the run up to it, I have always admired how Saunders moulded the side to its ultimate success but I have to say that how he treated some of the established pros when he wanted them out of the club particularly Charlie Aitken left a bit of a bad taste in the mouth, it also gives a pretty good insight into what was going on at board level from trying to secure Clough to replace Vic Crowe through to Doug's dislike of Ron from day one I have to say I think it's a really good read for the died in the wool Villa fan.




14 Nov 2020 17:57:43
I see rumours are starting to circulate that Man City see Jack as a replacement for David Silva I think we might have to brace ourselves for a big money bid come January.


1.) 14 Nov 2020 20:01:57
Where have you seen that John?

2.) 15 Nov 2020 01:07:40
I’d say that might have some credibility. Suddenly Kevin De Bruyne is Jacks biggest fan. Could be he’s looking to woo him over to City.

3.) 15 Nov 2020 08:42:59
Dave, I think it was on the Newsnow website.

4.) 15 Nov 2020 09:26:03
That was said a very long time ago, along with Grealish to Man United. Wouldn’t give it any thought.

5.) 15 Nov 2020 09:30:29
Add to that his court case coming up soon and clubs won’t want that bad press.

And the price tag will have gone up significantly, the owners won’t want to lose their captain as they’ve said and shown many a time. I can imagine they will be wanting 100+.

6.) 15 Nov 2020 09:55:26
Jack is currently one of the hottest properties in the Premier league. That surely puts him in the 100 million + bracket. How much did Barcelona pay for Coutinho a few years back. If he goes anywhere, it could well be to one of the Spanish giants, who don’t bulk at the price tags.

7.) 15 Nov 2020 10:18:49
Clickbait BS! He'll be linked with all and sundry because himself and the team are in the spotlight at the moment and they won't like one of the so called "smaller teams " gatecrashing their bubble. Let's flip it round for a change and start some bs rumours we're coming for their players 😁.

8.) 15 Nov 2020 10:32:08
If Jack continues to play as he is now, then I think it is likely that we will receive a bid and if Sancho is valued at £120 million we shouldn’t consider anything less than that. If we hold fast with that price then the only premiership clubs that would be able to offer that kind of money would be City, Utd or Chelsea. Chelsea don’t have a vacancy in midfield for him, and given the prevarication from Utd over the last 18 months plus the fact that they are currently a very ordinary side I think Jack might be inclined to tell them to bugger off. However I think City are a different proposition they would increase his wages that together with the chance to work with one of the best coaches in the world and some of the best players in the world might make him more inclined to move but if we continue as we have recently you never know, the team seem to be enjoying the football and the recognition is coming at international level so he might stay and see if he can take us to that next level here’s hoping.

{Ed002's Note - You are living in a fantasy land John. The value of Grealish is nothing to do with the price that Sancho did not sell for.}

9.) 15 Nov 2020 10:33:57
Didn’t realise it was from news now, never ever trust that garbage😂 no doubt they get everything eventually, usually 5 days after everyone else. The rest is just clickbait, links to articles on random websites no ones ever heard.

{Ed002's Note - "Newsnow" is simply a news aggregator taking articles from other sources such as the BBC, Guardian etc..}

10.) 15 Nov 2020 10:56:42
Of course I know what news now is, as I said they get everything, problem is that means along with the telegraph etc, they also get ‘football365’ and ‘soccer. London’, which is utter rubbish.

Surely you know the saying Ed, never assume, it makes an, you know the rest😘.

{Ed002's Note - Actually they don't take a lot of news sources. }

11.) 15 Nov 2020 12:07:55
What happened here then? 🤔.

12.) 15 Nov 2020 12:53:21
Chris I think it may of been inferred that you were born in Crete 🤔😁.

13.) 15 Nov 2020 13:41:24
How did we get here, we were discussing a possible rumour about another clubs interest in one of our players.
What has happened in between?
I have seen nothing, and even if it is true, like John has said, we should be asking for similar money as the Sancho rumour.

14.) 15 Nov 2020 13:46:35
I think edd002 is correct jacks price has nothing to do with sancho price, especially seeing as sancho is nowhere near jacks lvl, with a 5 year contract jack is easily worth 150 million if he keeps playing as he is, with regards to a possible transfer I can’t see jack going to sit on city bench and fight with foden after breaking into England squad he needs to play every week instead of coming on for the last 15 mins week in week out, I personally think jack is going nowhere for a year or 2 and if we finish in a European spot he will sign a bumper new deal in the summer, big IF I know buy anything is possible the way results are going, as supporters we have to believe that these things are possible.

15.) 15 Nov 2020 15:07:58
Ed 02 with all due respect can I ask why am I living in a fantasy land? I accept Sancho plays in a different position to Jack but he plays in a league which in my opinion is neither as competitive or as good and he has not displayed the same level of consistency either at club or international level and yet very few if anyone seemed to be surprised at the fee being asked for him. Jack has just signed a five year deal so currently if clubs want him we hold most of the cards so to speak. We don’t really want to sell so if clubs want him they have to pay, after all Barcelona had to for both Suarez and Coutinho we aren’t going to give him away if they won’t pay fine we are more than happy to keep him win win as far as I am concerned.

{Ed002's Note - You cannot simply compare players in that way. Certainly nobody would pay £120M for Grealish and if a club were interest Aston Villa would be looking for considerably less if they decide to sell. It is also nothing to do with Coutinho or Suarez.}

16.) 15 Nov 2020 15:59:53
Why would we be looking for considerably less? He’s our best player, our captain and just signed a 5 year deal? 80 million was the number dean smith had in his head in the summer and I think everyone can agree that jack has gone up a lvl since season started, his stats speak for themselves and he’s done well in the England set up with a few assists when he’s got his chance. seems to me it’s because he’s not playing for united or city etc. that we’re not entitled to top price for him, gone are the Randy learner days of selling our best players our owners have ambition to go places there’s no way they will sell on the cheap,

{Ed002's Note - The price of players is not going up - there is no money. You are delusional.}

17.) 15 Nov 2020 16:12:18
Ed, we all know it has nothing to do with Coutinho or Suarez, we are using them as comparisons, in a monetary sense.
Can I ask, why you don`t think anyone would pay £120M for Grealish. And can I also ask why you think Villa would ask for less, if they ever do decide to sell.
That seems ludicrous to me, especially if that is the going rate for a player of his ability.

{Ed002's Note - There is no money, nobody except a few delusional AV fans think he is worth anything like that.}

18.) 15 Nov 2020 16:52:32
Well the proof of the pudding will be in the eating as they say. As far as I am concerned it’s a win win if someone wants him they pay the asking price if they don’t we keep him with our current owners it doesn’t appear we will be under any pressure to sell.

{Ed002's Note - We have established before that the AV fans don't understand finances or FFP.}

19.) 15 Nov 2020 17:44:23
Jack is not replaceable. I wouldn't want him to leave for 1 billion. What's the point if we can't get someone else equally as good or better? If he were to leave this year then I would think it'd have to be at least 120m. Why would we even consider him leaving though? As I say, we cannot replace him and it would screw the club up. I don't think Barkley or Martinez would have joined if Grealish wasn't already committed to Villa. He has more pulling power than Smith.

{Ed002's Note - Players are transient, they come and go.}

20.) 15 Nov 2020 18:30:05
Ed, I know we have had this debate on here before but we have supposedly been falling foul of ffp for the last 2 -3 years but nothing has happened and given what the football world is going to go through post co vid are we sure anything will happen? If we do then the club will deal with it but I doubt it will happen how many prem clubs have fallen foul to date?

{Ed002's Note - Nothing has happened because of the pandemic. But Aston Villa remain in the same difficult situation John.}

21.) 15 Nov 2020 18:41:51
Grealish, to us anyway, is priceless and we'll see how good he is tonight against top notch European competition. At the end of the day he's only worth as much as someone is willing to pay. And with the way the world is at the moment teams won't be awash with money, unless you're Chelsea who saved it during their transfer ban.
Ps Ed002 do you need a cuddle?

{Ed002's Note - I guess you don't understand where the money for transfers came from at Chelsea. There will be attractive offers for Grealish next summer at half of what you are all suggesting next summer. It will give him a chance to step up in his career.}

22.) 15 Nov 2020 18:47:40
Ed mate, I don`t want to sound arrogant, but I am a C. I. D Certified Bookkeeper.
FFP, I never deal with, and am not so versed, but I certainly understand Business finances, and Accountancy mate.

{Ed002's Note - Clearly you don't understand FFP and as a bookkeeper I would not expect you to.}

23.) 15 Nov 2020 19:19:27
Ed002 I remember you mentioning Chelsea in reference to this and I believe that because of the ban and their lack of spending their income outweighed their outgoings, hence the wiggle room that created regarding FFP. If wrong I stand corrected.

{Ed002's Note - It is that and significant sales - the Hazard money, Morata, Pasalic, January sales, other smaller sales etc..}

24.) 15 Nov 2020 19:21:42
Ed you’ve been saying this for two years, will we ever see the consequences of this difficult situation you tell us we are in?

Didn’t you tell us we wouldn’t be spending significant funds in the summer window just gone?

{Ed002's Note - The pandemic gave a break for Aston Villa to regroup and try and fix their problems, but the rolled the dice on a guarantee of survival this season - which they should do, there are worse sides. But it will still need to be resolved. And the changes they will look to next summer could be addressed by a sale or two.}

25.) 15 Nov 2020 19:44:39
I think the academy revamp will help with this situation. Obviously we only want to clear out the "deadwood " and not our better players. Cut the wage bill, get whatever we can for fringe players and start seeing the more promising youngsters promoted to the bench. This is the sustainable model the club is looking at in the long run. For now though, with whatever leeway the C.V. has given us re FFP, we have probably spent above our means to ensure we stay in the premier league and the financial riches it entails.

{Ed002's Note - I tend to agree but you can expect interest in Grealish for next summer.}

26.) 15 Nov 2020 20:27:31
That'll be inevitable, a bit like Thanos 😁.

27.) 15 Nov 2020 22:06:22
Jack, S performances just get better and better seems like more pundits are coming to appreciate his skills albeit late in the day.




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24 Feb 2021 16:34:04
An interesting ...............BS REMOVED..............


{Ed002's Note - I really don't think you can grasp how any of this works at all. You need to stop posting all of this BS.}

1.) 24 Feb 2021 16:47:32

2.) 24 Feb 2021 17:02:44
He's not posted about those 3 little letters, starts with an F and ends in a P has he? 🤔🙈.

3.) 24 Feb 2021 18:29:51
What FAP? 😂 surely there's another site for that? 😉.



21 Feb 2021 16:16:06
Villadave I take my hat off to you mate, you were one of the first to identify a systematic problem with our midfield and whilst a number of us thought it was a one off clearly it wasn't. The score line flattered us today and it could/ should have been 3,4,or 5, I was worried about the match up between Barnes and Elmo last week and today every time Barnes got the ball he looked a threat Elmo spent too much time watching the ball rather than his man and other than the occasional cross he offered nothing I wonder what Guilbert has done to be farmed out he would be a better back up. I felt really sorry for Watkins El ghazi and Traore they got little to no service and particularly in the case of El ghazi and Traore they seem to take most of the stick for a poor performance, I understand the comments re the tracking back however Traore was not purchased for his defensive capabilities it's his offensive skills we want and he did score from our only real chance so I think all the criticism he gets is a tad unfair. Barkley needs to be dropped he was shocking and McGinn and Luiz not much better I think at least two of the three need a rest and maybe give Sanson and Nakamba a run in the side.

I also think this result highlights a significant gap between ourselves and a number of clubs not only the so called big 6 and for me emphasises that whilst European football would be great at the moment it's a pipe dream so that being the case given we are safe in the league let's blood some of the kids.


1.) 21 Feb 2021 16:26:43
How have you come to the conclusion it should have been 3,4 or 5?

European was always a stretch, we have had a brilliant season up to now and this was always about consolidating, finishing as high up as possible and strengthening in the summer. - A task we look to be achieving as things stand.

2.) 21 Feb 2021 16:27:34
Traore had 3 great chances John, all in the 6 yard box, 1 blocked, 1 scored and 1 he completely missed with his head. he’s to hit and miss for me, good squad player but against top teams we need guys who put in 100% effort for 90+ mins, he misses so many tackles or just doesn’t bother tackling cause he’s afraid, he might be the best attack minded winger we have but that don’t mean he’s good enough, not for me anyway.

3.) 21 Feb 2021 16:27:47
Thank you John, I try like most on here, to be honest and say what you see, I love Villa as you do, but some people can see no wrong no matter what happens.
Scotty is another who says what he thinks, and gets slatted for it.
Again though John I have to agree with your post, and something needs to be done.
I like Deano very much, but his team selection leaves a lot to be desired, if he had of made the changes he made at half time we might have salvaged a point.

4.) 21 Feb 2021 19:16:16
Whack, the three chances that fell to Traore as you say he scored one the other two were in my opinion great bits of defending firstly the block and secondly for the header the young left back Thomas put his body between the ball and Traore to ease him out of the way, you can’t blame him for either of those

Chris every time Leicester came forward they looked dangerous Ricardo should have done better with a chance in the first couple of minutes, Vardy was through in the second half till a bad touch allowed Mings to usher him wide and Elmo’s trip on Barnes which earned him a booking would have been a clear one on one for the Leicester player which if I am honest I am not sure that Elmo wasn’t the last man so we might have escaped one there but in fairness I would need to see it again so I think they had more than enough opportunities to make it 3,4, or 5.

5.) 21 Feb 2021 20:56:37
Lots of ifs in there John, if you apply the same to us the game could have been 4-4, 4-5 and it will go on forever.



20 Feb 2021 22:23:33
I see Callum O'hare is starting to show his worth at Coventry 4 assists in his last 4 games and he seems to be making a name for himself, whether he can go all the way to the premiership a la Jack Grealish or remain a Champioship player a la Barry Bannan remains to be seen, but either way I wish him all the best I always had a soft spot for him, skilful, good on the ball and great technique however a tad lightweight.


1.) 21 Feb 2021 08:13:12
He’s doing well there John, and improving as a player all the time. He is still only 22 and therefore still has time to go up to the next level. I would imagine Coventry are very grateful to us for this gem of a gift we have given to them.
You say he is lightweight but he is the same height and weight as David Brooks, who we are supposedly interested in, Podence of Wolves is even lighter, I wouldn’t say their weight handicaps them in any way.
There will be those that will say he’s found his level, but just maybe he’ll prove them all wrong.
Like you John, I wish him well.

2.) 21 Feb 2021 12:59:10
Mark I take my hat off to you in terms of your knowledge re players weights etc 🎩. I am a big fan of David Brooks however the difference for me between the two of them is that when Callum did play for the first team he seemed at times to be a little easy to ease off the ball but I don’t get that feeling with Brooks but in what I have seen of O’hare recently he does appear to have bulked up a little.



20 Feb 2021 09:19:46
I can't remember which of our illustrious posters was recently singing the praises of Arkadiusz Milik the Polish striker who was I think at Napoli before he was transferred to Marseille in January apparently has a £10.3 million release clause given his age and his stats may well be worth a punt.


1.) 20 Feb 2021 12:31:57
John, I think it was Ally p. Definitely would be a bargain for 10 million, a prolific goal scorer who has been likened to his compatriot Lewandowski. It will be interesting to see how he does at Marseille between now and the end of the the season.
Well worth keeping an eye on this one Mr. Lange.

2.) 20 Feb 2021 12:35:17
Sounds like a steal at that price John 👌.

3.) 20 Feb 2021 16:50:34
We should of got him in Jan, I’d compare him more to Miroslav Klose, and he weren’t bad.


4.) 20 Feb 2021 16:52:11
P. s, to the best of my knowledge he’s on a free at the end of the season


5.) 20 Feb 2021 17:04:21
I’ve read that Marseille have an obligation to buy in the Summer.

6.) 20 Feb 2021 17:18:52
My bad, his contract runs out June 2022 🤪




16 Feb 2021 20:34:02
I see that Bundesliga clubs are raiding the English game again for young and/ or emerging talent, so we have already seen Sancho, Bellingham, and Gray move and others like Omar Richards seem destined to move in the near future with Max Aaron's also on there shopping list, I wonder what Bundesliga clubs see in these players that our clubs don't?


1.) 16 Feb 2021 23:47:30
I was reading a rumour, that Dortmund are looking to sell 10 players, Sancho and Bellingham Two names mentioned .

2.) 17 Feb 2021 08:19:07
I bet it will be at a significant profit though.

3.) 17 Feb 2021 11:45:19
Most European teams have been bringing in youth players from other countries for a long time now, the only difference being that for several reasons British players have historically been reluctant to go abroad, at least in the same volume. I don't think it's a case of British clubs not wanting to keep their young players as such, more of a reflection of the ultra competitive nature of development football and players seeking a path to first team football at a good level, many getting to play in European competition early too. I for one think it will benefit the national team in the long run with more well rounded young pro's and exposure to different styles of football.

4.) 17 Feb 2021 12:41:24
I understand what you are saying DBS but we don’t seem to be attracting foreign youngsters in the same way European clubs do and the ones that we do attract don’t seem to make it into the first team I think there is a reluctance in this country to play young talent.

5.) 17 Feb 2021 13:00:55
It would be nice wouldn’t it if our youngsters could see a clear path to the first team, and therefore resist the lures of top European clubs. If such clubs can facilitate such a system then why can’t we?
Ok Jacob Ramsey is a regular for match day squads now, but it would certainly be nice to see a few more involved, which I feel would give others hope of achieving the same. With 9 players allowed on the bench now surely a few more of those places could be taken up by the likes of Hayden, Chukwuemeka, Philogene Bidace, or Barry for example. These lads need to see they’ve got a future at the club, or we may well lose them, which would be very disappointing.

6.) 17 Feb 2021 13:43:09
I think the price we pay for having an extremely competitive league is that its just harder for younger players to find that path to first team football without either going out on loan or moving leagues. Premier League teams (including Villa) certainly do sign younger players from all over Europe, but them finding a path to the first team is tougher almost everywhere precisely because there is just so much competition, both from homegrown talent and foreign, coupled with the fact that most managers and clubs are under so much pressure that they're reluctant to try untested younger players. I agree it would be great to see more given a go, but I don't blame managers for being so risk averse when they're given so little time to experiment and develop talent. Perhaps one day there will be a rule change to mandate x number of academy players in the starting 11, but I don't see that happening anytime soon.

7.) 17 Feb 2021 14:05:47
The reluctance to play young talent in the English game, is so obvious its unreal, and I think it is a great point, and one that needs addressing ASAP.
Mark, Moose, and myself have been great advocates of that very process, but are constantly told that they are not ready, and that the management will play them when they are ready.
I personally think we have 4 maybe 5 players in our U23s are more than ready for first team exposure.

8.) 17 Feb 2021 14:14:44
I think that might be part of the reason DBS but I would argue if you are not prepared to take a risk on young talent then the academy system becomes redundant and therefore why have one? I know in the past certain clubs have just closed down there academy’s as a means of saving money and for me that’s not the road we should be following but if youngsters see little or no opportunity of breaking into the match day squad is it any wonder they move on? At 16/ 17 all I wanted to do was test myself against better players I presume the modern footballer is no different so if Villa don’t start bringing a few through and quickly then I am sure we will lose them after all we have some of the best talent for there age groups not only in the UK but across Europe also.

9.) 17 Feb 2021 14:52:11
I don’t think you know if they’re ready or not until they’re given the chance on the big stage.
It’s not like we will be involved in a relegation scrap this season, and realistically we are unlikely to get into Europe, so surely it has to be worth trying some of them, just to see. It would more than likely give some of the senior players a jolt too. There is often a tendency for mid table sides to ‘ease off’, as the season draws to an end, when aspirations for European places and fears of relegation are no longer an issue. Some of our recent performances suggest that is already happening. I think it would keep them on their toes if they realized some of these youngsters were knocking on the door and potentially taking their places in the team for next season .
I would certainly like to see Hayden on the bench for the Leicester game as a possible replacement for Elmo, for if he picks up an injury or struggles with the pace of Harvey Barnes. He did excellently against Sadio Mane in the cup game, and I don’t think he would let anybody down if he was asked to step in on Saturday .

10.) 17 Feb 2021 15:05:06
Well said John, agree 100% mate.

11.) 17 Feb 2021 15:50:17
Another good point for possibly including a few more youngsters on the bench, especially the more attack minded ones, is that if clubs have done their homework on how we play ie doubling up on Grealish or "we've been found out " as some have suggested. An unknown random X factor player being brought on, would throw the opposition's game plan and may just give us that spark needed to change a game.
On the other hand it could also go t##s up but if you never try you never know.
If just a few make it, it could save a fortune in transfers and may give us the extra financial clout to sign just that one top notch marquee signing that could make all the difference to how we progress.

12.) 17 Feb 2021 15:54:08
I don't disagree with the theory behind playing the kids at all and would certainly like to see it so I'm not disagreeing with your points, my point is that the theory and the reality are in direct conflict and in a culture where you're only as good as your last few games, I don't see many managers in a position to take that risk. The development model and expectation of most top clubs is to aim for one or two to break into the first team every season or two, with some being loaned out and a few being sold while the rest are released - once in a blue moon you might have a Man Utd generation. Obviously circumstances and club aspirations/ budgets dictate that risk appetite to a degree, but I don't see a manager sacrificing finishing 8th in the prem to play a load of kids, finish 15th and then have fans and media then passing judgement on his/ her poor managerial record.

13.) 17 Feb 2021 16:27:12
A lot would depend on the remit given by the owners DBS. Success is obviously a priority but they have been very vocal about making Villa self sustaining in the long run. I feel the appointments of the likes of Lange and Harrison et al certainly gives a clue to the way they're going. But as you say, with the premier league money on offer its difficult to get the balance right. If our European push suddenly comes apart and we're technically safe from relegation I think a lot more of the youth will be given some exposure in what is, for once, a settled, competent side.

14.) 17 Feb 2021 16:53:54
DBS, If a manager lives with that constant fear of shall I shan`t I, then they are in the wrong business.
Live by it, die by it, that`s life.

15.) 17 Feb 2021 17:31:42
I agree Moose I think the intent of our owners is for us to become self sufficient and as you say that’s why Lange and Harrison have been employed by the club, the model where by premier league position is the main driver and becomes the be all and end all only works when the owners have bottomless pits of money which they are prepared to invest in the club which is fine while it lasts, but when they decide to stop investing a la Randy Lerner what happens then?

16.) 17 Feb 2021 17:54:57
We get Tactics Tim or Remi Garde as manager? 🤔😁.

17.) 17 Feb 2021 18:22:27
And the result was 😩😩😩.

18.) 17 Feb 2021 18:16:24
That’s the problem John, I fear the mentality has changed drastically over the years. In their first pay cheque they can buy a 5 figure car, 99% of players have never known hard graft or any form of graft at that. Everything that kept youth players grounded and hungry is now banned.

How many fans clamoured for Hepburn-Murphy to be played? We saw it first hand on here. You’d bet your house on the fact some hadn’t even seen him play yet we’re claiming he was the best thing since sliced bread. A couple of failed loans, and where is he now? Pathos FC, most likely because it’s a party destination, but that doesn’t matter, because he’s still got the car and the life to show his Instagram followers.

Over the last few years you could see in the youth team who was ready and who wasn’t, because for a time the games were free on YouTube or AVTV. One who I believe without injury, would of been a success was Jordan Lyden, unfortunately he did suffer badly with injuries and is now rebuilding at Swindon.

Not every player will make it, and when they don’t it’s usually down to two things, ability or attitude. The jump between youth/ ressies and pro football is as big as its ever been. Pressure to perform now and hit the ground running, is massive, but we’ve seen in Ramsey that if their good enough, they’ll get the chance, and if they take that chance and perform, they’ll be kept around and given opportunities.

19.) 17 Feb 2021 18:44:51
Villadave - I don't disagree with that principal in theory I would like to see the same outcome as you, I'm just making the point that we don't live in that ideal world where managers (generally speaking) can take the risk to think that long term. The fact that this conversation is taking place would suggest that the reality doesn't match the theory though.

20.) 17 Feb 2021 18:45:06
Usually 3 points to the opposition and an arse tweet or foreign shisha party 😂😂😂.

21.) 17 Feb 2021 19:40:30
Then DBS our chances of competing with the big boys will be dependent on us keeping our rich owners and there willingness to continually invest big money I am not sure that’s a recipe for success particularly in the current environment either in the short or long term.

22.) 17 Feb 2021 20:06:09
DBS, you make some great points mate, and you are right the reality doesn't match the theory most of the time.
My point is similar in some ways, because if managers don`t take chances and experiment, they can also fail, and get ridiculed for not trying something different.
Its that damned if you do, and damned if you don`t scenario mate.

23.) 17 Feb 2021 20:42:23
Yeah I agree Villadave and certainly would prefer things to be closer to your way of thinking, the trouble is these days there are just very few owners/ fans/ pundits that are willing to give the Manager that time to see through the development and realise the benefits of giving the kids a season or two to develop in the way we'd like to see. unless rules get proposed as mentioned earlier.

VillaJohn - I'm not saying any of this is how it should be or my preference, just commenting on what I perceive the current state of play to be.
If we produce 1/ 2 top pro's every season or two and sell and handfull to 'lower teams' every season or two for decent money, that's probably as sustainable as we can realistically aim for right now. in my opinion anyway.

24.) 17 Feb 2021 21:13:19
You are probably right DBS I would just like to see a few more of the kids other than Ramsey appearing at least on the bench every now and again.

25.) 17 Feb 2021 21:16:16
Yes true DBS, and us Villa fans rate very high in the fickle stakes.

26.) 17 Feb 2021 22:20:55
I think to have gotten that push now they probably needed to pick up at least one result in the new format JPT, getting nothing probably didn't help the cause even though the Liverpool performance got some recognition.
I'm sure if games do become dead rubbers that we'll see some movement on that front. Europe may not be an expected reality but the games in hand still gets us there so I don't see us straying that far from the current squad unless hit with injuries.




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23 Feb 2021 20:36:56
Gone from strength to strength then I see.




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23 Feb 2021 20:16:11
Certainly didn’t help Ed, nor did the atmosphere in the dressing room or the decisions in the boardroom ie how we got shut of a manager who a few months earlier had taken us a very average team at best to an FA cup final and replaced him with the wrong man at the wrong time, come to think of it I am not sure Remi Garde would ever have been the right man at any time. In fact does anyone know where Remi is now?


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23 Feb 2021 15:08:10
Ed077 yes he is but Utd are expecting him back before the end of the season Wilder has said he knows Berge is using Utd as a stepping stone to bigger and better things however I think from the interview he gave they are expecting interest from clubs involved in Europe rather than teams like us,


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22 Feb 2021 09:30:48
4eva I agree with you completely re who we need to ship out and you can add Hourihane, Taylor and Engels to that list. With regards Deano this is only his second season at this level and it’s a steep learning curve, if someone had said at the end of last season we would be where we are now with only just over half the season gone we would have snapped there hands off. and to my mind that earns Deano some time however I do think he has to adapt to the requirements of the league so as a number of posters have already pointed out we need to have a plan b which we don’t seem to have at the moment we continue to play out from the back when teams employ a high press against us, if you look at City on occasions they can mix it up and play long ball as evidenced by Ederson’s assist the other day so for me it shouldn’t be a one size fits all. He definitely needs to make better use of the bench and be more ruthless when it comes to selection and I would like to see a couple of the kids at least make the bench and it was good to see that yesterday. I think we are ahead of where we thought we would be when our owners took over but again our summer recruitment is going to be vital in terms of the clubs progression if this time next year we are making no progress then I think it’s fair enough to start to ask questions about the manager but not before.




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07 Feb 2021 20:28:16
Looks like we are prepared to up Jack’s salary to £200k a week, and pay Chelsea £40 million for Barkley according to Sky Sports, I do like Barkley but not at £40 million better value to be had elsewhere.





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24 Feb 2021 09:23:45
I hope TOV that we don’t get into the Crystal Palace mindset ie that when Zaha doesn’t play we lose, I do think we need to invest in at least one more creative player to take some of the burden off Jack, I had hoped Barkley might be the answer but it’s looking likely that’s not the case.




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24 Feb 2021 08:50:01
scottcafu I agree re Bozzy’s kicking but I may be on my own but I like defenders to kick the ball into touch when required, my strikers to score and play in the final third and my goalkeepers to stop shots anything else over and above is a bonus Bozzy was a great shot stopper and that will do for me. But in fairness we have had a number of quality keepers over the years.




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23 Feb 2021 12:28:53
You wish.




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23 Feb 2021 12:27:51
Bozzy for me.




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23 Feb 2021 10:29:35
Barcelona are apparently interested so it’s a choice between the sunny climes of Spain or B6 on a miserable rainy November morning, tough choice eh!