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25 Jun 2022 09:37:46
We have done really good business during this window however we were linked with Bissouma and Phillips for quite some time and both have ended up with Champions League clubs which just goes to show how hard it's going to be for us to land top quality talent.

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1.) 25 Jun 2022 11:53:24
Both very good players Ings, would have loved them at Villa but sadly the lure of Champions League will always win out - I'm sure Villa have other targets and will no move through the list, if we were genuinely in for Philips (which apparently we were) then we must have a big budget allocated for another Midfielder. Hopefully it's Sangare, he looks a real player from what I've seen of him - Gallagher as well, would be a very good addition. Fingers crossed we see some movement soon, pre season is upon us and before we know it it'll be our first fixture at Bournemouth. Still so many things that need to be addressed like Luiz and Carney staying, Sanson loan, a new LB, MF and forward. Going to be a buy few weeks!


 

 

08 Jun 2022 07:53:20
Apparently we are no longer interested in Bissouma.

Lord of the Ings

1.) 08 Jun 2022 23:29:03
In favour of another player or is he satisfied with his midfield options now ?


2.) 09 Jun 2022 07:54:32
I think we are looking at other options Conor Gallagher anyone?


3.) 17 Jun 2022 08:31:20
I think we are looking at Gallagher Ings, that's who I think we are targeting at No8.Or Sangare as Kamara can play 6 or 8 and Gerrard did want more physicality in the middle.


 

 

01 Jun 2022 16:46:58
It seems we are still interested in Robin Olsen, given his performance against City I think I would be more inclined on saving a bit of money and taking Ben Foster on a free, I know Watford were relegated but that was based more on the fact he had nothing in front of him as a back up I think he would be fine.

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1.) 01 Jun 2022 17:05:04
I know he's not young but I can't see Foster wanting to be a second choice just yet. Olsen is at least used to that and despite a shaky start I thought he did alright against City for 70 minutes.


2.) 01 Jun 2022 20:28:06
rk, he stood motionless for Gundogan’s header and I firmly believe if Martinez was in goal he would have saved Rodri’s shot. He was second string at Sheff Utd and conceding 3 in 10 minutes ain’t great We can do better than Olsen.


3.) 01 Jun 2022 22:39:16
I got pelters for saying Foster the other week ??‍♂️

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4.) 01 Jun 2022 22:53:40
I think people are still stuck on thinking we are in a position to maintain 2 prem level starters in every position when we can only offer many of them league and FA Cup games.
Goalkeepers very rarely get injured so you only have 3 options. A young keeper who is still fairly green, a perennial number 2 or someone near the end of their career who is about to be dropped.
Foster doesn't fit any of those categories as he's still got at least another year of being a first choice and he's not the type to not take it.
Even Steer got fed up of not playing and moved on.
I've seen Emi concede worse goals but we don't criticise him. Olsen hadn't played a minute for us and didn't find out he was starting until last minute so was unlikely he'd have an absolute worldie. He's an international number one for a team that did well at the Euros and his experience at Roma means he's been around some good players and managers. He's unlikely to play much so its more about what he can bring in behind the scenes which is probably more than some other options that we could actually get to sit on the bench. £3m isn't much for his experience whuch can be used to help the young keepers.


5.) 02 Jun 2022 06:33:50
Foster has openly said one of the clubs he would consider moving to is Villa, he has done that in the understanding that he would not be the no 1, he has a vast amount of experience played international football and even at his age he is a better keeper than Olsen in my opinion.


6.) 02 Jun 2022 08:20:40
Let's add up the total sum of those quotes.
'Would consider being a number 2 to a world class goalkeeper' meaning it's not really his first choice.
'Like Ramsdale or even Martinez' meaning if he is going to be a number 2 then he will prioritise Arsenal over us.
Foster will take his time, first waiting to see what first choice offers there are before then considering backup options.
Our current setup seems to be that we don't hang around as someone's fall back. If you're not saying yes early on then we're not interested. I like that approach as we are essentially likely to end up with mercenaries who don't put in any effort.


7.) 02 Jun 2022 09:15:48
If he is looking to stay in the premiership then at 39 it’s very unlikely he is going to be anyone’s first choice even the newly promoted sides. I accept we are going to buy Olsen the deal looks as good as done, I just hope Martinez doesn’t get injured because if he’s out for any length of time I think Olsen will cost us points.


8.) 02 Jun 2022 09:39:46
That may or may not be the case but I think that's the same with most clubs.
Spurs second choice is a keeper we didn't trust in the championship. Liverpool are worried any time Alisson is out.
Outside of Leno, Henderson and Kepa I wouldn't say there's a number 2 you'd absolutely put your money on being as consistently good as the first choice. Palace maybe but that's more a case of Guaita not being top level so Butland doesn't look like a drop off in quality.

{Ed001's Note - Liverpool are not worried when Kelleher is in goal at all. He is an excellent young keeper. Most Liverpool fans just worry we will lose him as he could easily be first choice elsewhere. Leno and Kepa are both very poor keepers, I guess only as good as the first choice because Ramsdale and Mendy are both poor as well.}


 

 

19 May 2022 22:08:52
It seems to me it's a big summer for us not only in terms of incomings and outgoings but in how we play, we are far to pedestrian particularly transitioning from back to front. Burnley were quite happy to let us have the ball in front of there back four and wait us to play through them and despite the supposed creativity we had on the pitch we didn't have the guile to break them down. When we get the ball we often get to the final third quickly enough but once there we inevitably slow it down as if we are not sure what to do allowing the oppositions back four to reset this needs to change and quickly otherwise we are going to struggle next season.

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1.) 21 May 2022 21:27:10
The part I couldn't understand, was why with the size of their defence plus a 6f6inch goalie,we kept putting those high balls into their box .


 

 

18 Mar 2022 10:50:00
I see Brighton are being linked with a summer move for Danny Ings. Ings to Brighton plus a little cash for Bissouma anyone?

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1.) 19 Mar 2022 15:37:37
Sounds like something that could happen


 

 

 

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12 Jun 2022 18:06:42
Saw a fantastic quote today re Luis Suarez and the fact that we are no longer interested in signing him, the reason given by someone close to the club (allegedly) is that Gerrard doesn't want to turn us into a 'Liverpool tribute act'

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29 May 2022 09:36:28
Southgate is at it again, he says he is more likely to pick Grealish now because he has noticed improvements in his play since he joined City. Really? Are Jack's stats better this season than last? Has he played more games? Has he scored more goals or provided more assists? It just goes to show that if you want to break into the England set up and play you need to play for one of the so called top clubs.

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1.) 30 May 2022 23:52:47
Southgate is just a liar basically. There’s no other way to address it. He clearly has an issue with Villa and he’d have been better off just saying he picked Jack on merit and not on form.

Jacks had pretty pathetic season in comparison to last, he’s played way less minutes than most of those who play in the same position and yet again acted like a fool when alcohol was involved during city’s celebrations. Hardly one for the memory reel.


 

 

26 May 2022 13:23:46
Whilst I love all this transfer speculation and the names we are linked with, the salaries some of these guys are on are huge, given the tightening financial regulations that will be coming into force over the next couple of years does anyone have any concerns around how we are going to afford all this spending without falling foul of the regs?

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1.) 26 May 2022 14:14:14
I think the owners have it under control mate, they are shrewd enough to not get us in trouble and ruin their investment imo


2.) 26 May 2022 14:51:27
Agree Whack, plus I think we'll do the majority of our business early and the remainder of the window will be spent off loading players to balance the books.


3.) 26 May 2022 15:24:43
I hope your right guys but the likes of Targett and Luiz are on £50 to £60 k a week and Kamara is already signed on £150k Tarkowski if we sign him is asking for £120 k and similar amounts will be being asked for by other transfer targets.As well as having to find the cash I wonder what the effect will be on dressing room harmony


4.) 26 May 2022 15:58:47
I think the £100k from Jack has helped FFP. It will be the combination of fees and wages that has a ceiling, and the gates post-covid will help. Tarkowski on a free, Coutinho on a free, all helps.

As far as dressing room harmony goes, it fees like we are entering a new era. Players step up or get replaced, so do it on the pitch and you get a better contract will be the message.

It will be interesting to see how it pans out at the start of next season.


5.) 26 May 2022 17:38:10
This season has demonstrated that a lot of the current squad are not good enough to take us to the next level. I am really hoping that we start next season with two new midfielders, two centre backs, a winger and centre forward. I wouldn’t be that sad to see the back of any of the players signed in the Bruce and Smith eras with the exception of Cash, Konsa and Martinez. Watkins and McGinn are the uncertainties for me. As Watkins demonstrated against City; he often lacks the touch and composure of a too striker. As for McGinn he is clearly not suited to the role he has played most this season. He is a fan favourite but needs to be given a chance higher up the pitch.


6.) 26 May 2022 17:43:43
Coutinho was £17mill, not free.
While we needed a couple of experienced heads around the place I hope we don't go down the MON route of throwing loads of money at too many people with very little sell on if any.
Coutinho and Carlos will be over £40mill in transfer fees and some hefty wages and both are 29/30. Ings and Digne are also both an age where if or when we sell they will have dropped in value.
I hope Gerrard in his demand for success hasn't fully abandoned the clubs strategy of improving player values. Maybe the idea is that Kamara alone covers that by coming in on a free.


7.) 26 May 2022 19:38:08
Apart from maginn and Martinez none of those players have increased in value by significant amount.


8.) 26 May 2022 19:46:56
Whilst I have to agree with you RK with what you’ve said. The only thing I would say to counter it a little bit is that the quality of player we are adding to the squad at the very least now our youngsters are learning from and being around top quality. i'd rather our young defenders having Carlos to aspire to than mings and Coutinho over El Ghazi etc.

However all of SGs business besides Bouba seems to have broken the usual tinder 25 years model we seemingly had before.
That said your final point also does have to be considered. If we can need up selling BK for Grealish like money in a few seasons then you’d say it all balances out. Hopefully the days of selling our best are now behind us though!


9.) 26 May 2022 20:12:05
Whack, I'd argue Konsa and Cash are both £15-20mill up, Watkins about £10mill and Luiz £10-15mill. That's a good £50mill profit right there. The 2 you mentioned take it up to £100-125m easy I reckon.


10.) 26 May 2022 22:08:46
I agree some of them have risen, cash for sure he’s had 2 good seasons, I think we paid 12 million for konsa so 15-20 million increase in value brings him up to possibly 32 million, absolutely not a sniff of it, nobody would pay it right now, he’s had a terrible season, plus prone to getting sent off, hence why we need new center backs, Watkins cost us almost 30 million and he’s getting slated here most weeks for his finishing, he’s not a 40 million striker, lucky if we broke even on him right now. traore I reckon we will lose 8-10 million on him, we might get 25 for Doug but that’s a stretch, I know he plays deep and not preferred position but the guy can’t hit a dead ball to save his life, his frees and corners are awful. you only have to look at the league table to know we are closer to s 20 million average than a 40. these players are not that good, we finished barely above the drop zone and all the teams below us were terrible all season, they are bang average at best with a few quality guys in the mix. sanson is another we will be lucky to break even on. Terry was a big loss to us this season, hopefully Carlos experience will make up for it in part.


11.) 27 May 2022 07:06:44
Konsa is closer to the 15 mill, his age coupled with his experience means 27-30m is easily his market value.
Tammy went for 40 last year after not even playing football for months. No way Ollie is less than 38-40m which is the number already being quoted as the minimum in the Arsenal and West Ham stories.
If anyone buys Doug it will be 25-30. Most of us think he's overrated but he's exactly the type of number 6 that a lot of Spanish and Italian sides look for.


12.) 27 May 2022 09:40:18
We were quoted 40+ million for Carlos, bought for 26. Tammy was the highest scoring English forward in Europe last season and Ollie can’t even make the bench for England, I like him but he’s not going to do much more than stop a team getting relegated. Doug is entering his final year so that’s also bringing down his price, it’s just opinions mate but you can’t slate players all year then be surprised when they are not worth huge amounts, pay for what you get and these guys are all average.


13.) 27 May 2022 10:05:15
From what I saw Carlos was touted at 35m Euros and we got him for 30 plus add ons.
Yes, Tammy did that this season but it was in Italy and his price tag was before he did that.
A lot of average young players cost 25-35m now so I don't think I'm overselling the prices.


 

 

22 May 2022 19:50:27
Whilst the performance was good for 70 minutes unfortunately the game lasts 90 and we weren't up to the task, if Martinez was in goal I think he would have possibly saved Gundogan's header or at least made an attempt, I agree with rk substitutions we're poor and didn't help. I am also getting increasingly worried about Watkins he works hard runs the channels well but centre forwards are paid to score, he is not clinical enough if he stays then to my mind he is a squad player at best, we need an upgrade.

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1.) 22 May 2022 20:36:53
The art of the number 9 is dying. Coutinho showed with his goal that if you make the right movement off Watkins then his hard work comes good.
If we're going to stick with 2 number 10s then they need to be allowed to stick with him, one running behind for the flick, one waiting deeper for the second ball. Too often they are 20 yards away from him leaving him isolated.
Without a Grealish feeding him in the area multiple times a game its going to be difficult to have consistently good scoring opportunities leaving him short of that killer instinct. The same has happened for Ings who we all know is a natural finisher normally and its happened for Lukaku with the way Chelsea rely on the 3 10s doing the business.


2.) 22 May 2022 21:11:08
Dave D, i agree with loti for once and you are wrong, i was disappointed with the 90 minute performance. Our defence has looked vulnerable for most of the season and we rode our luck until the 75th minute. We didn't pass well and how many chances does Watkins need. The goalkeeper was woeful and whilst i have defended Mings in the past, i now agree with many on here andthink he is a liability and would be surprised if he is a regular starter next year. So end of school report, very average for one of the biggest premier league spenders. Take a good look at the league table, our owners must be extremely disappointed on the return on their investment. Just a couple of places above the relegated teams. So any of you guys with claret tinted glasses that are happy that we avoided relegation must be delighted tonight, my take, yet another disappointing season and a team of very average players. In order for us to push on towards Europe next season who would i not want to see in my starting eleven next season? Mings, Chambers, Konsa, Luiz, Ings, Watkins. So Who would i like to be moved on as not even bench warmers. Bailey, Traore, Trezz, Elghazi Young. Of course we all hope for something different next season and hopefully with a few quality additions Gerrard can move us forward,however come January if there are no significant improvements, many on here me included will be making noises,that's how football works.


3.) 22 May 2022 21:41:19
Whether we play one or two up front we need someone to score between 15 and 20 goals a season if we are to challenge the top 6 and I don’t think that’s Watkins, against the best sides you get few chances you need to take them he had 2 or 3 opportunities but didn’t work the keeper whilst his work rate is great his first touch is poor and he won’t score the goals we need to take us to the next level which is why I think Gerrard is looking at Suarez


4.) 22 May 2022 23:17:06
I really hope we don't sign Saurez Ings, his legs are gone, I get you don't lose that ability to stick the ball in the net but for me we should be avoiding this transfer.


5.) 23 May 2022 00:09:58
Everyone I know agrees with all of you about Watkins but I really rate him the work he dose off the ball is fantastic 11 goals in a very poor underachieved villa side is not bad at all put him in city or Liverpools squad with the chances he makes the doubles that tally in my eyes. Anyway onto next season mings for me has to go shame really was my favourite player in the championship. Many of my work pals are wolves fans and have slagged mings off while I have defended him for the last 2 season but this season I have seen the light and he needs to go. I would keep a lot of the players. In the starting line up from the current squad I would have.
Martinez
Cash konsa XXX dignae
XXX XXX (maybe nakamba/ mcguin)
Couthino buendia XXX
Watkins


6.) 23 May 2022 07:05:46
Watkins scored 15+ last season and started this season injured and then forced out wide to accommodate Ings.
Most of his goals this season came when the team as a whole found the tiniest bit of form. A full season where the players behind him are better and more consistent i'm sure he'll get back to 15, if not 20.


7.) 23 May 2022 07:51:00
UTV don’t get me wrong I also like Watkins as you say he works hard runs the channels brilliantly and if we are going to play 2 up front then we need to find a striker who compliments him, however if we are only going to play with one up top then I am sorry he is not prolific enough. My point re Suarez was not that he was the answer it was to reflect the fact that Gerrard appears to be looking for a striker I have long pinned my colours to the mast for me Schick is the front man we should push the boat out for.


 

 

17 May 2022 14:56:56
Anyone fancy either Richarlison or Bale?

Lord of the Ings

1.) 17 May 2022 15:49:30
Nope, bale past his best and richarlison is a dispicable human being.


2.) 17 May 2022 17:39:38
I think Richarlison is a half brother of Zaha, Bale just wants to play golf not football, (except for Wales)


 

 

 

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25 Jun 2022 21:38:02
His disciplinary record is shocking and quite simply he ain’t good enough

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23 Jun 2022 12:00:52
We may have submitted a bid but apparently his hearts set on Man City

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18 Jun 2022 13:35:28
If it was a pay as you play deal I think that’s fine my only concern is that up to the World Cup you would undoubtedly get a tune out of him I’m not so sure about after that’s why I would opt for the pay as you play approach

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09 Jun 2022 07:54:32
I think we are looking at other options Conor Gallagher anyone?

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02 Jun 2022 09:15:48
If he is looking to stay in the premiership then at 39 it’s very unlikely he is going to be anyone’s first choice even the newly promoted sides. I accept we are going to buy Olsen the deal looks as good as done, I just hope Martinez doesn’t get injured because if he’s out for any length of time I think Olsen will cost us points.

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28 Jun 2022 10:20:59
We need to be prepared to be patient you can’t get all your deals over the line as quickly as you might want. I’d rather wait and get the right player than move onto someone else not quite as good but available now. Obviously I don’t know but given the rumours it appears we are interested in Conor Gallagher but Chelsea want to assess him pre season, given the strength of the Chelsea midfield it’s unlikely he will be a regular starter therefore if we are interested I think we have a real chance of landing him but patience will be the key.

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23 Jun 2022 21:54:58
Ally, I like Mitrovic and I agree with you that a couple of years ago he would have been an astute signing, but that was when we played with wingers and we got quality balls into the box,Gerrard doesn’t play that way and so I don’t think Mitrovic is the answer. There’s an argument to be had over Suarez but from what I have seen recently he isn’t the poacher he once was and as for Morelos we would spend too many games with only 10 players on the pitch when the game finished.

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23 Jun 2022 15:25:52
I get what your saying Scotty but the $64000 dollar question is who? I don’t see anyone in the premiership who is likely to be available and want to join us who fits the bill, in terms of those linked Morelos isn’t good enough in my opinion and has significant disciplinary issues, Suarez is passed his best which means we need to look abroad. Personally I have long championed Patrick Schick from Leverkusen scores goals for fun in the Bundesliga and at international level but even so he’s untested at premiership level and would represent a significant risk given the size of the fee we would likely need to pay, my only other suggestion would be Tammy Abraham but I am not sure Roma would sell and I am not sure the ratio of goals scored against chances created is that good in the premiership so the whole thing is a bit of a conundrum I fear.

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20 Jun 2022 18:58:57
I think Archer will be loaned out to Rangers as a sweetener for us landing Bassey, he will get at least the equivalent of Championship football plus some European nights to boot, a win win for all concerned I think

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19 Jun 2022 08:07:00
I like Tielemans but I have a mate whose a Leicester fan who says he wants Champions League football and ridiculous money which if true would rule us out. I like Conor Gallagher got a great engine and would compliment what we currently have and at the right age too so if we could get him that would be grand. If we can’t how about a cheeky bid for James Maddison? I know he’s an annoying sod but a great player nonetheless.

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