Aston Villa Banter Archive January 01 2014 to January 31 2014

30 Jan 2014 20:59:16
Can anyone in the know tell me why we havnt shown any interest in T Ince?

Surely can't be an issue of wages.

>Scg87

Nailed on for Monaco in summer, what would be the point when there's no chance of a permanent.

Stoke have tried for a perm stopping palace from getting him on loan

30 Jan 2014 17:10:01
Hoolahan

has had a falling out with a ssn reporter off camera but he has been told he is still very much a Norwich player whether in the first team or development squad, and could find himself being shipped out to the Championship on loan, meanwhile Norwich have 2 players coming in 1 is Yobo the other is unknown at the present

30 Jan 2014 16:53:20
Just get Fisher and Clasie in and be done with it Villa these 2 will secure us top 10 and push on to top 8!!

30 Jan 2014 09:23:28
Who saw Allardyces. After match interview? Is this why English football is struggling? tactics to totally stifle the opposition, may as well cal in Anglian and build a glass shield around the goal. If ever a dinosaur wa still living it has to be big Sam

30 Jan 2014 07:43:32
If so where's the evidence of this purpose sighting dnt get me wrong great if true but need evidence to fully believe anything that goes on down vp

29 Jan 2014 21:43:19
ho my god my blinking blood pressure must be through the roof.

Ha ha ha tell me about it. all good though UP THE VILLA

29 Jan 2014 19:32:08
PL why no Gary Gardner do you have a problem with good footballers

28 Jan 2014 16:48:50
Ed can you tell me if there is any chance of agbonlahor playin tomorrow

{Ed001's Note - he is set to have a fitness test ahead of the game tomorrow.}

27 Jan 2014 20:49:23
Thank goodness you are still there Kingvilla, I was getting worried. I don't believe that any sane man would want to pay money for our AVFC, not the way Scrooge has allowed it to fall apart. £200m, not a f. ng chance. The rumours about red bull are tripe! Why would a corporate company with the back ground of high performance want a lame duck? W e are stuck with Lerner, get used to it, he will not fund PL to improve our club. LERNER OUT NOW AND DON'T COME BACK!

26 Jan 2014 18:41:25
Players out

Ireland - free
Hutton -free
Albrighton - loan

Players In

Holt
Bertrand
Lescott - loan initially perm at end of season
Hoolahan - 2m
Dembele - loan initially perm at end of season

I take it you're on about the young Dembele from Fulham?

21 Jan 2014 01:32:00
does anyone know how long before nzogbia returns?

Not until April unfortunately

20 Jan 2014 05:50:15
What about Sean Maloney as our attacking midfielder? He seems to have improved since we last had him?

He was a good performer when he left villa. Poor lad was homesick!

19 Jan 2014 21:00:28
Ned to send helenius out to some championship team like derby to get him used to the english standard.

Why not keep him, you will be in the championship soon

19 Jan 2014 13:32:01
That was an outstanding display of passionate football. The team proved that they can raise their game and truly there was not a weak spot on the pitch. Spirit, desire, willingness were all on display for the entire game. Makes me proud again to be a villa supporter. Now watch someone post that Liverpool were poor. My answer is b. l. is, villa were brilliant.

Totally agree with you oldvillan except for when you mention the weak links. For me and many others there were a few, namely El Amahadi, the guy runs round hardly wanting to receive the ball. He also gives it away to the opposition than a team mate. fell asleep for sturridge goal letting Henderson free. Clark again falls asleep at vital moments, got away with a couple yesterday but was punished for the sturridge goal by not marking him properly. He tends to read the game too late. Though I do not think he is a good defender at this level, I do think he could be a good midfielder. Don't know why Lowton was not in the squad as Bacuna again is awful at right back. He should never play there as he can not defend. If we could buy a decent centre half and a midfielder I think with the arrivals of Holt and Bertrand especially who was superb yesterday then we will be fine for the rest of the season.

UTV

Agree too, if we can get a decent centerback in I think we might be able to start pushing forward, but my argument with subs again will be gabby goes off surely you bring on albrighton and when KEA went off why not give gardener a blast?

Agree To me KEA should not be in the team, yes give Gardner a blast villajk

18 Jan 2014 20:00:27
Great display today from the lads really proud of them, but something needs to be done about bloody suarez continually diving in matches, he is a bloody disgrace to the game of football.

18 Jan 2014 17:18:03
Wonder what the odds are on a Suarez hat trick this evening is.

18 Jan 2014 03:30:40
More talk about red bull to buy out randy Lerner?

Im not even going remotely start to think this could happen till the deal is done,

Where is this talk? Please confirm where this speculation has come from?

17 Jan 2014 22:21:31
sieghurst, grealish, drennan, burke, carruthers all out on loan gaining experince and imo pl should send tonev gardner bowrey sylla helinus all out on loan aswell as getting in a rb dm cam?

17 Jan 2014 13:18:34
PL is having to play his cards close to his chest so that he can get the result he wants.
Lerner is allowing him to bring in players that cost nothing but PL will be allowed a middle of the road, £5-£7m, player and is possibly in talks with such a player. If he can get a couple of players within the total amount then Lerner will see that as an acheivment.
Defour, Dann, Naughton.
Can he get all 3 within that range?
Doubt it.
Lerner out.

16 Jan 2014 23:58:41
Hate this c*** about at least players like holt will give 110%, there's no point if they run around like headless chickens if they have very little ability.

Pl out

Stop crying and back your club! Jeeeeez!

16 Jan 2014 17:02:12
get Mauricio Pochettino

I would be happy with that

Just said on Talksport he is staying put.

villadave

Would have to admit pocchettino is a top manager, I actually think pepe Mel will do a good job at west brom too (as much as it pains me to say it). Both managers instill a bit more imagination and creativity in there teams which is something that our team desperately needs.

Finch.

16 Jan 2014 10:29:39
So I'm reading today that Steven defour is waiting on a bid from spurs!. Do we really want another player that wants to use our club as a stepping stone?

We don't need a player who is less than 100% committed to Villa. We've been there before!

Lerner must show some ambition or risk his investment in the club diminishing with each step we take nearer to the championship - just look at the Man U value in recent weeks

15 Jan 2014 23:06:34
I recently told about the unkown signing after the game vs arsenal, turned out to be grant holt, not what I was hoping for. But villa are still very much in for hoolahan regardless of bad blood we are talking 1.5 mil for a 31 yr old with 18 mths on his contract and woth no sell on value this offer will not come around again.
Also the defour links have some substance but he appears to be angling towards a move to the spuds. It has also recently came out the chadli getting no playing time so villa want to get him in on loan with a view to buy at the end of the season.
Don't be surprised to see a bid for a defensive midfielder alsonothing concrete but I would be looking towards diame from west ham, PL exexperience young and only £3.5 mil

VillaSausage86

What about Nathaniel chalobah on loan? Great work ethic and would sit nicely in front of our back four in my opinion!

15 Jan 2014 09:05:26
Surely if spurs are looking to let Lewis Holtby go out on loan we should be at least trying to persuade him to prove himself in the premiership with us. He is a quality attacking midfielder and would certainly provide chances for our strikers.

Thoughts?

Would be ideal but scrooge won't budge on his wage cap.

Finch

Apparently Chadli will look for a move too wouldn't mind us trying to pick him us as we were supposed to be after him before Spurs signed him. Especially if Spurs are after Defour like his agent said they'll have so much class just sat on the bench. If it was me i'd just phone and as about everyone Holtby, Chadli ect. but again probably wages rule everything out.

15 Jan 2014 17:40:57
I find the whole wage cape scenario pretty interesting in regards to the future of football, maybe I do not understand it properly, but surely if Villa and similar clubs stick to this sort of wage structure plan long term, then we will never be able to sign first class players, taking us on to higher levels? Isn't this what every PL club should be aiming for? What is there to play for if this is the case? (You could argue the entertainment is enough, but Villa can't even tick that box at the moment) Oh yea, the FA cup! ha.

14 Jan 2014 14:28:20
Grant Holt has signed for us lol. Would love to here lambert speak to Lerner about these transfers. How can he sack o'neill for bad transfers and we have 11 strikers and can't find the back of the net. Next we will sign Ron Atkinson lol

This is all about desperation, the guy Holte might score a few goals for us, but hardly a statement of our intentions to progress.

We are fast becoming a laughing stock for the rest o the premiership.

villadave

How many more inferior player do we need play some of the next gen. we are the laughing stock fact

Lambert and Lerner are killing this club. Lerner with his lack of interest
Lambert with his lack of ability and judgement

Hi Mendax, PL is only doing what he can with the funds that he is given by Scrooge
If you give your other half only half the normal housekeeping you only get egg & chips.
With the full amount you get steak and chips.
Currently PL is on baked bean money.
Lerner out

Holt will be a very good guy for the dressing room. You guys need a little experiance.

Hi Oldvillan
I agree that Lambert is dealing the hand he is dealt
That said, 7 mill for Kozak? Tonev, KEA, Bennett, Luna?
All dreadful buys. As for the playing style. don't start me

Hi Mendax let's be honest only teckker any good I can't believe the support PL gets

Hi Mendax, the amount he has been allowed to spend dictates that he shops in the lower end of the market and hopes to develop his buys.
Unfortunately our league performances mean that the opportunity to develop these players by getting them on the pitch is severely limited.
If we could get a gap on the lower half of the table so that they play without fear PL might just give some of them a better chance.
I agree that there is no style and nobody to create a style.
Style players cost. and that's where we came in!
Lerner out ASAP

Hi Mendax, the amount he has been allowed to spend dictates that he shops in the lower end of the market and hopes to develop his buys.
Unfortunately our league performances mean that the opportunity to develop these players by getting them on the pitch is severely limited.
If we could get a gap on the lower half of the table so that they play without fear PL might just give some of them a better chance.
I agree that there is no style and nobody to create a style.
Style players cost. and that's where we came in!
Lerner out ASAP

Surely 2 class players better than 10 S--T, Those players bought are championship at best (PL bought then)

13 Jan 2014 19:38:03
THAT team is s--t poor Pl why don't the most gifted player on the books Gary Gardner even make the bench makes me feel sick

I swear you actually are Gary Gardner

So you don't think Gardner is better than Westwood kea Bacona Styla do you understand what the midfield do? if true holt a great buy lol championship here we come

If you watch Gary Gardner's form in the reserves hasn't been that either. Need to sign a few midfielders before the window closes

Gardner knows he's better than the s---t midfield and when some one no's he's better than the manager pets and continues to be over looked what chance do you have, PL has lost it Holt old and can't play same as the rest of PL buys, like his young and hungry, huff football Don't blame Lerner add the money PL has spent

It is not the transfer money that you need to add up, it is the amount of money that the players are demanding. Lerner will not sanction ridiculous contacts hence PL needing to shop cheap.
It is a bit like grocery shopping, W------ offer the best but we can only afford S---------- or T-----.
But if we look further we find what we want in A----, L----, etc just a bit cheaper.
Thats where PL is having to shop.
Scrooge is not giving PL enough housekeeping.
Lerner out

I don't think any other manager in the prem would take grant holt even paying no wages. After reading PF comments in the mail. PL and PF have a lot in common talk complete rubbish and kiss RL back-----e

I can see gary gardner becoming the next cahill we ship him out and he gets game time and proves how good he is

13 Jan 2014 18:52:28
Lets all face it, the staff a villa park who have the job of getting new players in have probably been told to phone around clubs and ask if they have anybody available for 1 million or less. because scrooge won't pay any more than that. so chances of us getting anyone in is zilch.

13 Jan 2014 11:20:29
Charlie Adam is targeted by Galatasory,
would he suit our cause? Good going forward, hard in the tackle.
Just what we need, but could he be the man.
Simple comments.

Hi all.
see below something I have seen on one website, typical.

Just days after former Aston Villa striker John Carew recommended Stefan Marius Johansen to the club, he is reportedly close to a deal with Celtic.

Last week, former Aston Villa striker John Carew pointed his old team in the direction of one of Norway’s brightest stars.
Telling Paul Lambert’s side that they would be wise to cast an eye over Stromsgodset midfielder Stefan Marius Johansen, Carew called the player a “Duracell rabbit with tekkers”, and said he would be a good addition to the current Villans’ squad.

Reports at the same time suggested Celtic were interested in the 23-year-old, so if Villa were going to take their former striker’s advice, they may have had to move quickly.

But the latest reports from Norway claim Johansen is set for talks with the Scottish side having left his national team’s training camp in Abu Dhabi.

STV Sport has published the Norwegian Football Federation’s statement that Johansen had withdrawn from the training camp and was “in final negotiations with a club”.

Which club that may be is not certain, but quotes in the same story from Celtic boss Neil Lennon confirmed his side had been in talks with the player and was hopeful a deal could be finalised shortly.

With Johansen seemingly on his way, it appears Carew’s recommendation was too late for Lambert, but Celtic may be signing a player of real promise for potentially a bargain fee.

Looks like another tip cast aside by our management and board, they really are bloody thick at VP

villadave

12 Jan 2014 12:34:16
Lots of chat about Lescott going to Hammers on loan with them paying him £90k a week then signing him on £70k a week.
Have we missed out again.
Open your purse Scrooge or GO.
Lerner out.

Lescott ain't worth 70K per week.

He may well not be.
But another poss. target bites the dust.

10 Jan 2014 21:54:36
Wells' prospective transfer was always only ever speculation. The reason for the drop in his odds was that journalists established Villa were in talks with Bradford and put 2 an 2 together and made 5. Of course Villa were in talks over Graham's loan deal.

Money is available for the right players. Relax and wait for the window to unfold.

I don't think that I have enough years left to wait.
Lerner out!

10 Jan 2014 16:40:35
Jordan Graham has gone on loan to Bradford I wonder if this is a sweetener for Naki Wells?

I thought that aswell hope so watched him on youtube nos where the back of the net is

Wells is about to sign for Huddersfield

Another interesting view. Is Wells about to sign for the Udders or is the movement of Graham a sweetener?
I would like to see the sweetener approach work for us.

Seems we have missed the boat again with wells signing for huddersfield, I can't believe how bloody slow we are at getting targets in

Or maybe he was just never a target.

Netted the winner on his debut yesterday well done villa another one missed

08 Jan 2014 23:17:14
Have seen on one website declaring an interest from Aston Villa in a player from Bradford City called Nahki Wells.

Take a look on youtube, this guy is a natural and I would welcome him a VP.

I know he is young and from a lower division but so was Michael Owen and Kevin Keegan.

About 2m they reckon would get him, go for it I say, he looks fearless and takes a pop from anywhere.

villadave

{Ed001's Note - when was Michael Owen in a lower division? He started at Liverpool, went to Real Madrid, then to Newcastle, then Man Utd, then to Stoke and retirement. Well he really retired when he left Liverpool as his career was spent on the sidelines, but I was trying to be nice about the little weasel. He was always a top flight footballer mate.}

Agreed this guy is worth a punt. Could turn out to be a bargain.

Finch

Hi Ed.

Sorry about the quote above, I was under the impression M. Owen played for Chester in his early days.

But still my point is that players from the lower divisions can become stars of the future, and this young man looks a natural goal scorer.

I think alongside a big man up front and given a bit of time he will develop into a very competent striker

Is there any truth I Villa`s interest!

villadave

{Ed001's Note - no worries mate, I just thought I would point it out, he was born in Chester, if I remember rightly. It was Ian Rush that Liverpool brought in from Chester, and he was seen as such a flop in his first 3 years at Liverpool that it led to the scout, Geoff Twentyman, losing his job. Sometimes you have to have a lot of patience with young players, as Rushie did alright in the end....}

I think PL has bought enough players from lower leagues and cheap imports, with these players only one way the championship if not this year next, the so called project is flawed you need at the least 4 class player for the younger players to learn there trade at ease, no tension I honestly believe by luck he as bought 1 good player we must get a director of football Hoddle for me no long ball experts

I do not completely think the buy young hungry is completely flawed the problem was having no experience! I think Lambert should buy a few experience players and keep buying young along as he keeps moving on players he sees as not good enough!

we have to move on Given Ireland Hutton Stevens Bent Kea Bennet Bowrey Delfonso that it self has to be about £300. 000 a week! we could at least
get 5 quality players may it be young or experienced!

Agreed we do need experience as I have said in previous posts, but this guy looks very good and at 2m which is the sort of figure stated on the website I think it would be worth a pop.

If he scored less than half of the total he has scored for Bradford, he would be better value than most of our current forwards.

Worth a shot in my opinion, we need goals full stop, and with a decent AM who would help with balls into spaces.

villadave

If Wells came it would be great, saw him when they played us and he was their best player in my opinion, however if he is Premier League standard is another question, a couple of years then yeah maybe

PL should have put in a bid when we played Bradford last year. The lad was excellent

So you saw him play once? against us anyone would look good, teckers was magic against everyone last year he's a bit off form at the moment ( see my point ) PL bough only championship quality we need proven prem players Delph only looks good because the midfield is the poorest Iv have seen at villa

Refusing to bring in lower league players is ridiculous, often you can get them for a good price and as long as you don't base your whole squad on them they can be successful for a top tier team. Personally I wouldn't be unhappy with Wells in claret and blue, a helpful striker who is young, if he doesn't preform there is the oppurtunity to put him up for loan

Mr. T name a top 8 prem with championship players

My opinion play Gary Gardner and use some of the other next gen players do waste any more on championship class players we have enough PL will no doubt play Westwood kea bowery Styla Luna Toney these are not prem standard You get what you pay for fact

08 Jan 2014 17:44:34
heard adam johnson is available for £7M would you have him at the villa?

No. Done nothing for 2 years
Another Stephen Ireland

Probably earnt a small fortune doing nothing for those 2 years too. Not what Villa need

06 Jan 2014 22:23:40
Randy Lerner losing patients with Lambert, it's believed chairman Randy Lerner is "horrified!" with his club's poor home record. It's rumoured Lerner is lining up a high profile named manager to replace Lambert, the name is said to be Gus Hiddink.

This would take a massive selling job by Scrooge.
If he was prepared to fund a move such as this why has he not given the funds PL.
The detractors will say that he would waste the money.
The realists would say that he has not been given the chance.
LERNER OUT!

06 Jan 2014 09:54:44
The idea of a defour, hoolahan, delph midfield 3 sounds pretty good to me, signing defour might get benteke to pull his finger out and hit the net a few times during the rest of the season. well I can hope anyway
adavfc

Sounds good really hope defour happens quality player but I would rather see holtby the hoolahan spurs got him for 1million so would only cost what 3-4million and he only 23 bargain

Spits only got him for that because his contract was ending at the end of the season and they didn't want to get into a battle for him. he's probably worth 7-8 million

But does anyone really see him signing defour and hoolahan. I personally cant. We will probably bring in some unknown and just hope he is a benteke and not a tonev.

Petrov recommended Tonev to PL. what does that say about Stan?

06 Jan 2014 03:55:11
I honestly don't understand how its this same team that beat Arsenal at the beginning of the season, and Manchester City, and deserved points at chelsea and home to liverpool. PL and Lerner need to sort it out, were not going anywhere with this low budget garbage. i'm all about having young hungry players but you still need experience and star players

05 Jan 2014 19:59:31
How many new signings do we need this month? At least 4 in my opinion. CB, LB, DMC and finally a creative offensive player which the fans turning up and paying to see a game at villa park deserve. Watching your team at home getting outplayed nearly every week is torture. I wonder if The manager, board and chairman are aware of the fact that statistically we're the worst home team in the football league.

The club needs to show some ambition in this window, we'r all fed up of the cheap imports now. However with wage cap implemented we can only afford to buy cheap unknowns again so why bother going to watch the dross at villa park? If the club aren't willing to spend money on good players why should we pay good money to go watch them?

Finch

The point in going to "see this dross" is they're our team. I know it's poor and it's absolutely gutting to see us in the state we are but if we turn away because things are going poorly how will that inspire the players and how are we ever going to s*** this stupid "fickle fans" reputation.

I understand Finch's frustration but the guy who posted about our "fickle fans reputation" is spot on
I was there on Boxing day and it was like a library, until the booing at the end
They're crap, talentless players but they are our crap, talentless players

The point is a valid enough one, but I'd like to also let you know fans of ALL teams are fickle. The reason why villa fans have this reputation is because of our proud history in comparison to today's showing. I'm not expecting the dizzy heights towards the top of the league or anything like that but a lack of desire & ambition from the club doesn't reflect the ticket price, travel etc for me. and I'd suggest if the club aren't willing to invest the fans shouldn't either

Finch

05 Jan 2014 15:12:58
PL needs to go.
bring in a manger from a different country to give use a bit of flair and then get rid of Clark.

Remember Dr Venglos?
Deadly got him in, couldn't speak English, players did not know what they were doing.
Careful what we wish for.
Wanted rid of Deadly, look what we got Scrooge.
Lerner out.

05 Jan 2014 12:39:41
Lichaj; free transfer looks so much better than any villa fullbacks I don't trust PL with transfer funds, Please any reason GG not playing

04 Jan 2014 19:57:53
I've always been a firmer believer that Lambert would "do the job" for Villa. I doubted it last season until the end when we played decent football and scored goals for fun. Its more or less the same team - but its playing boring, bad football - why!? Lambert needs to buy good players this January, or I'm sorry I've given up on him and he has to go!

04 Jan 2014 17:00:04
can Lambert just leave like now. Couldn't beat Bradford, now Sheffield

So do you still think he can keep you up? looks like 3 derbies at least for next season might even be 4 if the Saddlers go up

All over to lerner back him or go?

I agree, alexberb1. Another loss against a poor League One side. Lambert's tactics were once again questionable, he must be sacked now.

He has been

And which Messiah will take his place with the same poor squad and little financial backing but turn us into world beaters? Be real were a poor side and will be until Lerner goes, it can't all be put on Lambert

Lambert must go has lost the plot, he cannot cope in the PL, Lerner most take some action asap or Villa Park will become empty with passing fixture.

They are ALL HIS PLAYERS resign PL, HODDLE

We can all call for Lambert's head, as I did in the original post, but we do not sign the cheques and try as we might the decision is up to Lerner. either that or this weird rumour that Red Bull might buy us. Whoever is in charge and whoever own the club I love my club, results may matter but as long as we still play I will support them

VTIFD (villa till I die[just in case you thought it was a typo])

I have to laugh to see all you Villa fans crying over Lambert now, You sometimes have to be very careful what you wish for, yes their are 3 points that separate us, but looking at both sets of next few fixtures which would you prefer, we have a greater chance of climbing than you have

I have to chuckle too mate, no wonder the City board didn't trust him which our millions, look at his abysmal signings for villa, all flops aside from a one season wonder want away striker who has now turned into a sick note. He fooled them into a new contract and is now working on getting a transfer. Always said he wanted to go to Arsenal in the first place.

04 Jan 2014 08:32:56
well it seems as if helenius and bowery are finally going to be given a decent chance to impress in the cup today, I think if bowery doesn't show anything impressive today we will get rid because he doesn't look up to standard and he has had a few small chances in the 18 months he's been at VP but I sincerely hope big nicklas can showcase his talents to the full today because he could be crucial in the league run-in. UTV

None of them Start

03 Jan 2014 16:57:40
team against sheff utd

steer lowton clarke baker luna
albrighton sylla gardner tonev
helinus bowrey

lets see what they can do?

We have seen how bad bowery toney luna are play some young players

03 Jan 2014 08:46:00
Im hearing good things as of late, the old one that doing the run around before, that we are going the make a good effort for lescott, if we can get the last of the bomb squad out there is a great chance we come up with the wage demands, The 2nd one I'm hearing about is Defoe with a repoted 6 million could snap him we will be putting our selfs in there, I can't be sure on cm so I'm guessing Rodwell is the obvious target maybe milliner but he is playing well as of late, anybody thinking of little Wes from our good old friends Norwich? As of defenders just anybody is better than what we have a times

Callum McManaman has been posted on here and he would light a few fuses.

02 Jan 2014 23:36:03
With kozaks injury does this mean will play helinus and surely means we will be dipping into the market at sometime in the near future I just hope it's for jermaine defoe

Im hoping both happen, I really wanna see helinus show his class. plus been waiting for 10 years for defoe to sign for villa.

Helenius will most likely start against Sheffield on the weekend so if he impresses he could become a regular starter, however I think we do need to sign an experienced striker, such ad Defoe and get young back to the club it is rumoured we are favourites at 2:1 to sign him

Emile Heskey. lol

02 Jan 2014 13:10:04
says it all Ole Gunnar Solskjaer goes to Cardiff he refused us

Money talks. Cardiff offer him a big spend, Scrooge offered him a project to buy cheap, then develop and sell to create an investment to buy further cheap players.
In all honesty what would any of us do in a similar situation?
Heres hoping that the purse opens and PL gets the chance to buy a seasoned leader for the team.
I can supply a can of wd40 if its needed.

SuperMac

Whether we have missed a trick in not getting Solskjaer will become apparent in the next few months
Where it's clear we did really miss out to our cost, was with Martinez
That said, would either of them have had any chance with Lerner in charge?
Villa are becoming a managers graveyard

Its quite apparent that lerner has no ambition for this club hence the reason solskjar and martinez turned us down. The penny will finally drop to lambert and he will tell lerner to shove his club up his arse.

Solskjaer didn't want to come up against ferguson that's why he didn't come to us at the time

01 Jan 2014 18:47:47
So there's quite a few rumors knocking around at the minute, these are the ones I think are A) realistic and B)worthwhile

Zaha on loan (quite a few clubs interested and think he'll create a lot of chances)
Which leads to my next one
Jordan Rhodes, proven goal scorer, clinical and think he would get on well with Paul (especially being a Scottish international)
Lescott (possibly on loan) I know there's a whole wage issue but I think it would be worth paying them for a season or two, he's a class CB and would add experience.
Joey Barton, I personally really want this to happen, besides all the off-field actions he's a top midfield player who, let's not forget, was in and around the England set-up before certain incidents, and he's passion would rub off on the younger players on and off the field.
Bertrand & De Bruyne, Chelsea "normally" stump up some or all of the wages for players on loan and they are both clearly top top players, and with rumors of cole heading off perhaps a loan deal for Ryan would suit him more than a permanent one.

Are you the real Mr Bojangles?

Bertrand a top top player? I don't think so.

01 Jan 2014 18:08:38
All the people banging on about helenius, he is young and expected to improve but isn't ready yet, been average when he's played. Kozak is scoring goals regardless of how bad a footballer he can look. Bowery works hard and will out himself about which lambert likes.

Also those saying play Gary Gardner, he's not played regularly for years and half the player delph is!

Still carrying a few pints then.

Helenius IS ready, he is an International mate.

Kozak scores goals that are gifted.

Bowery championship material at best.

And Gardener would figure under most managers with the squad we have.

villadave

It will be interesting too see if the fa cup match will be an opportunity for helenius and Gardner.
Finch

Gary Gardner best footballer on villa books Kozak is a donkey, if its about working hard I put a shirt on Delph lookingg like last year, villajk

Villadave u are crazy. I'm not the person that wrote that above but I agree with all of it. I can't believe you think helenius is a premier league standard player yet. He could be but definately not yet. I go to work with a Everton fan and after we played them he came to me the next Monday and said I quote ' that helenium is the worst player I've seen' he played for 10 minutes in that game. Helenius is not anywhere near the standard you think but he could be in a few years time. And how many times have you seen helenius play? Maybe 30 minutes worth. Lambert sees him everyday in training and knows how he is progressing. We did only spend 2 million on him and if he was playing everyone would be complaining about how 'championship level' he is. Give him time

Hi whoever you are.
"Thanks for the crazy label"

It is an opinion I have "not a fact".

I have not said he is premier league standard, I have simply said he is ready to play in our side, he needs a chance to be brought up to speed.

I have seen Helenius play probably 20 times or more the full 90 minutes,
you seem to forget what I have posted before, I trade on football matches and have a set up where I can watch live games in Europe all day long, and I make a part time living doing it.

I watch at least 2 games a day every day, I have four screens.

I am not saying this makes me any sort of expert all, but it does help in understanding different countries football styles and player development.

So please don't say I have never seen him.

villadave

Hi Dave, my angle on it is that I think helenius needs to build up his core muscle strength before being able to hold down the rigours of the premier league.
Finch

Hi Finch.

I know what you are saying, but don't be fooled by his build.

The Danish league have some pretty tough cookies playing, and have seen Helenius take some bone breaking tackles mate.

What about Crouch?

Like I have said he ain't going to toughen up warming the bench is he

villadave

Remember the players don't learn everything from playing matches he will be delveloping from training with a player like benteke

If that's your thinking fine.

But I don't know anybody who thinks a player becomes a player from training, they learn yes, but playing games is the only way mate, it doesn't matter which way you look at it.

villadave

Either way looks like he'll get a chance to impress in the cup this weekend.

Finch

01 Jan 2014 17:36:59
Well I said months ago On here Pl wants defour and Rodwell and I was laughed at and called a dreamer. Now others are getting links months after they will be fab signings and bla bla bla. Well kingvilla told you first and both are very real targets as up to 3 more experienced players will come in this windows. 2 midfield players and another striker and also a lb if the funds were there but that's probably for the summer more.

Iv seen you post about 100 names on here so far. your rumours are fabricated from your mind and not factual.

Finch

You didn't say we were linked with that you said we had signed them! Good to see your ludicrous comments again though king villa