Aston Villa Banter Archive August 01 2013 to August 31 2013

31 Aug 2013 17:53:35
If Lambert needed any convincing to sign Ince then his goal against Watford should do that.

30 Aug 2013 21:44:35
Anyone else think villa should try and get Lewis holtby on loan this season?

30 Aug 2013 18:51:41
Lambert made a revised bid for Ba, and the only hold is whether Mangala is leaving or not. If we can get him, and Ince, and possibly 1 holding midfielder to add a little bit more depth, as Delph, Gardner and KEA are all susceptible to injuries, we would be on course for a top-ten and hopefully a cup win

29 Aug 2013 14:54:36
I hope bannan goes he is rubbish and hope to bring in ince utv!

26 Aug 2013 23:10:13
I don't know why everyone is on such a rant about weinman and generally slagging off the team.


Put it this way, I remember when the fixtures came out this summer (I was on holiday in Greece :) anyway. looked at the first 6 games and said to my mate. 'f***ing hell ill be happy with 3 points from them first 6'. he just looked at me (typical manc) and said 'yer if your lucky'. i'm a happy villa fan right now! get behind the team!

I'd have taken 3 points from the first 3. I said I want 2-4 and that was massively hoping, and if we play like we have 35 more times this season we can smash any team outside the top 4! let's go back to last season and think about how awful some games were, we couldn't pick a man of the match half the time because we were so awful. Compare that to this year, where its difficult to pick a man of the match because several players deserve it! I really don't get why people are moaning because we lost to chelsea and liverpool, and its not even like we got bullied off the park like schoolboys, we gave both team a great run for their money and if cech and mignolet didn't make some crucial saves and kevin friend knew how to ref we'd have walked away with 9 points. People would probably still moan then but never mind, some peoples glasses are always half empty. I just chose to ignore it and be happy with the progress we are making.

We are doing fantastically well !!!!

I agree that it is out of order to slag off Weimann.
The guy is decent player who gives his all and deserves better service than he is getting from our midfield

Some great points made there not sure about the first post 3 points from 6 games but defniatly 3 from 3 if we had drawn them all people would be saying how good the results were and what we might be able to acheive etc looks more likely that we will go with what we have got which is not a bad thing lads we have good depth which we haven't seen in years and above all togetherness which is what pulled us through last season. With the added competition for places the lads are fighting not only for the team but for their place in it which is why we will have no relegation problems this time and the chance of going one better and making a final I believe.

Naturalvillan

Exactly right lads! I think the competition for places will do us great. Think back to last january, off the back off losing 3 games conceded 15 and scoring 0, we lost to league 2 bradford in the cup. With barry bannan putting in the worst performances I have seen from any villa player in many years, he still could not be dropped as there wasn't anybody else to play. Sylla came in and sent bannan to the bench and we ultimately improved. At the start of last season, most players were pretty much guarenteed a place and this season, nobody is. It will keep players on their toes and at their best and when the other players get a chance they have to perform to try and cement a starting 11 place. I don't see what the fuss is about personally, i'm very happy as a villa fan now and I think a finish around 10/11 is good progress and will set us up nicely for next season. Also on another note, is anybody else happy that many pundits and fans of other teams are saying agbonlahor and delph deserve england call ups? That in itself shows the improvement!

Noone would complain if it were three draws.

Same amount of points in the end, plus we have gotten the better of Chelsea and Pool at various points throughout the matches. just need consistency.

One other quick thing, does anyone else see Benteke as being fairly sloppy with his general play so far?

Finishing is superb, but the basics are not there right now. Might be nit picking, but I don't recall him losing the ball much, if at all last season.

Leroy

Yes leroy! Glad somebody else sees it. I'm more than happy for him to average a goal a game, but he is by far the laziest member of our matchday squad! He seems to be a bit too calm on the ball and I think he's sort of expecting not to get tackled because of who he is. Maybe somebody just needs a little word in his ear to bring him back down to earth.

25 Aug 2013 20:22:59
Although playing 3 matches in 7 days against good opposition won't have helped our cause, I think yesterday showed up where we are short (assuming we didn't already know)
Midfield, Delph aside, is a real concern. We lack imagination and the ability to hold on to the ball well enough. That is not going to be rectified with lower league acquisitions with potential. We need a couple of central midfield players with real ability and that will cost. Although I think Westwood is a reasonable player, I don't go along with the theory that he will one day be good enough for England (although with the present England side I could be wrong). If we were to have any ambition, he would be a player that we had on the bench who could be relied on as a fresh pair of legs when needed.
El Ahmadi has improved from last year but that is nothing to pop the champagne over
I like Sylla but he is a purely defensive player.
Someone like Coutinho would walk in to our team
Randy, I know you had your fingers burnt by O'neill, Houllier and the other fella who's name I can't bring myself to mention, but you finally have a manager you can trust with the cash.
Don't waste the opportunity

What your saying then is we need a defour or a rodwell! Lol. Na joking aside a fully agree

WE need kingvilla. His/her imagination would open any defence.

I agree we need a player with flare which we haven't had since young Milner and downing left but Westwood I see as Barry's replacement keeping the ball up with tidy passes and Delphi is becoming the new petrov with sylla benteke Gaby and weinmann are quality going forward with the exception gab and weimanns finishing needs polishing
We've tightened up at the back Luna is by far a better player than Bennett and okore (the tank)rrarely putsch foot wron

We need to see what helenius banana and tonev can do although I'm pleased with what I've seen so far of them but with all that said I believe villa won't be any where near a relegation battle this year I reckon anything from 9th to 12th

Cleav81

I keep saying the name Yoann Gourcuff and I'll keep saying it unitil someone signs him as he's a realistic target and a fantastic creative player.

Gourcuff

gourcuff

GOURCUFF!

Finch

24 Aug 2013 21:47:57
Every ones saying we need an attacking midfielder. I think we need a defensive one to spread the ball out wide or just produce some quality balls from the midfield. A player like scholes. We had so many chances to play players through today and couldn't find that bit of quality from midfield. Although I do think delph was outstanding again today.

Scholes wasn't a dmc!

Count how many times delph gave to ball away

Not many, certainly our best player in the opening games wev played. Westy still hasn't hit top form yet either and I'd be tempted to drop him and change the formation to 442 at home.
Must admit iv been impressed with KEA too!

Finch

A player like Barry is needed. Cool head, good vision and able to pass the ball. Not saying it should be Barry but someone like this is essential.
We all have to remember that Lambert has to get it right this season as Lerner will not sit tight as he did last year, if he fails will Lerner pull the plug and look elsewhere. I think that Lambert will do the job that we want him to do, but will he do it quick enough?

I think lambert s the best manager villa has had in years and dosent face the sack at all. I agree with the comment above about Barry. I don't think Barry would fit but a player younger and fitter would be perfect

24 Aug 2013 19:52:16
Shame about the result today. we did not get started until the last 30 minutes and we could have nicked a point.

Okore looked very impressive, Bucuna looked weak and lost at times. We did not penetrate well enough, but top performances from Gabby and Delph. again, as well as Weimann and Vlaar playing well, Tonev was energetic but we do lack the defence unlocking play through the middle, which lead to a lack of goal scoring chances. I am still happy with the start to the season, well done Okore on your full debut.

I thought weimann was pretty ineffective today, and for me personally vlaar is a bit of a weak link in the defence at the moment. Bacuna looked nervous and too eager to impress and if benteke doesn't have a great game we're always going to struggle. We looked tired as well, I don't think fitness is the problem but working as hard as you have to away at arsenal, then at chelsea is bound to take it out of any player! Onwards and upwards now

23 Aug 2013 17:22:25
Aston Villa were using the Viktor Fischer interest as a smoke screen, the real target is.
wait for it.
Belhanda.
Kiyotake.
Boudebouz.
Tendayi Darikwa.
guess which one the above? clue he plays for a team that begins with C.

Oooh what fun, it's a quiz!
For chrissake, have you nothing better to do?

22 Aug 2013 20:54:28
I am hearing Newcastle are looking at Yoann Gourcuff, a player who I believe would be a great acquisition to the Villa and wouldn't cost an arm and a leg either. So come on Randy put your hand in your pocket and spend some of the money saved from the bent deal!

finch

Something will be in the press maybe from Sunday / Monday regarding this player, personal terms still not yet agreed but should still happen.
Selling club "European" being a bit difficult as well over add-ons.
Could now take two weeks to cement the deal.
Will be a great signing if this goes through though as I expect.

P. S To the guy who said I am keeping my head down, yes I am, but if this deal does not happen I will admit it and reveal who I am.

Relax.

CLUBSLAYER

21 Aug 2013 21:44:56
Unlucky not to get a point considering the own goal but I can't complain against the team I belive will win the league and what an improvement over last year. UTV!

21 Aug 2013 10:59:04
Viktor Fischer from ajax is apparently a target for PL with 10 goals scored last season. He is an attacking midfielder/LW and could prove to be a valuable asset.

20 Aug 2013 19:43:42
I think Chris Baird would be worth a punt. Out of contract, can play rb or cb and has a wealth of experience to go with it.

Good squad player

Finch

20 Aug 2013 11:26:37
Notwithstanding the new contract, there is a possibility that both Arsenal and Chelsea will make bids for Benteke before the transfer window closes.
Arsenal are becoming increasingly desperate to sign players to appease fans and having failed to sign Higuain and Suarez, are now short on options. Villa will be a good place to demand silly amounts of money. Similar applies to Chelsea: if they fail to sign Rooney, Jose will look to find another forward with Drogba-style abilities. Benteke is the obvious target.

In many ways, a new contract is absolutely irrelevant. Nevertheless, the situation gives Villa an advantage, in terms of rejecting the bid or demanding an enormous fee.

Only have low to medium confidence in this. I suspect if a bid emerges, it will be close to deadline day.

I would like to think he is knuckling down for a season to secure his World Cup berth. wishful perhaps but I expect the contract to have softly stipulated that he can leave after the World cup. should the right offer come in.

Furthermore Arsenal fans may be waving pitchforks like angry peasants, but Wenger and the business brains are not quite so witless. they will have their targets and not rush into big money offers for players who do not already have the reputation of world class players who can help them push on to the next level. If they can get Cabeye for 15m a defender for 10m and a top striker then the peasants will stop demanding crumbs.

Again with Chelsea, Mourinho knows he has quality players, he is not going to go for another Demba Ba, he will wait to bring in HIS top targets, Rooney is undoubtedly the man they want. Lukaku, Shurrle, Torres and Ba as well as a literney of top class attacking midfielders, he knows there is very little missing from his jigsaw and a bid for Benteke does not seem a wise move for him.

20 Aug 2013 00:49:31
anyone think villa should go for milner in a loan deal? I really think he would come back to villa and could be the that extra bit of quality we crave to produce the chances for the beast benteke

Only take him back permanently.

Would love to have milner back whether it be a loan deal or permanent and I think it'd do wonders for our squad but his wages are a problem and I don't think that pellegrini (probably spelt that wrong) would let him leave on a loan deal especially if it included man city paying a percentage of his wages. Also if we wanted him permanently we'd have to something in the region of £12-£15mil

19 Aug 2013 20:23:44
cabaye? worth a 15mil bid? what do you think

Gunners panicking

19 Aug 2013 19:42:22
someone is using my kingvilla name tut tut. half the king villa stuff arriving ain't me tut tut. someone having a laugh

the real kingvilla

I had the same problem mate
Easiest way solve it is to register yourself and post by logging in
We will then all know for certain that 'Thee" King Villa is in the house . and can subsequently ignore whatever you say :)
I'm kidding, of course

Lol mendex ill do that my friend and thankd lok

18 Aug 2013 22:01:03
Is it only me who is feeling a mixture of happiness, annoyance and irritation with regard to the hysterical response of Arsenal fans and the media at large over our apparent "giant killing" act in beating Arsenal at the weekend?
Have we really sunk so far that Arsenal fans find it so upsetting to be beaten by us. And for the media to see it as such a talking point?
Just thinking out loud

100% agree mate but it's been 2 seasons since we were truelly competitive in the league
Hopefully that's changing now as although we've given the big teams a tough game we've rarely beat them in the last 2 seasons

I just hope this result says more about our progression than Arsenal's decline
I suspect it's a bit of both
That'll do

18 Aug 2013 13:43:45
I know its totally off subject, but what would be everybodys thoughts on steve davis, the crewe manager being the next manager of the england u21s? In the past few years he has bought through nick powell, westwood and luke murphy, all of whom look very promising, especially westwood. Also when we played them in pre season they played some good stuff when in possesion so I think that he would do well at the u21 post.

That's a good shout mate

But Dario was doing that for years at Crewe prior to davis coming in. Can see the media suggesting someone like Becks! But my shout would be hodgson despite not being his biggest fan I think it will give him a better understanding of any talent that's coming through. He needs to ditch a few of those big time charlies in that team

Finch

In my opinion it should be a coach not a manager. Someone like southgate who is passionate but I can see them offering it to Paul ince, shearer, or Neville. An ex player is a must for me

18 Aug 2013 11:06:44
Rumours that Barkley has a 10m release clause, would be worth it as he has a lot of potential

17 Aug 2013 23:13:47
Wot a performance today. Agbonlahor looks deadly and Bemteke still has his scoring touch. Can't wait for Chelsea hope Okore plays at the back with Vlaar. Top 10 this season. COME ON THE VILLA! UTV

Great result but we still looked "loose" at the back. Need to see Okore alongside Vlaar or 3 across the back. We frequently had a space 50yds wide when Arsenal broke forward. And how the hell did a quality striker get given so much space in the first 5 minutes of a match. Who should have been there? Looking forward to Chelsea, we have a debt to settle!

Said it on another thread on the rumours page, he was given so much room because lowton went forward and when arsenal won the ball he was the wrong side of play, so ron vlaar then decides to run past all 3 of our central midfielders to make a tackle in arsenal's half, which he missed meaning he too was the wrong side of play, baker went over to block the cross and luna was left defending giroud and walcott in the middle

17 Aug 2013 17:40:41
Top class result today, gabby played especially well!

I agree gabby played great but we do lack in the midfield department no imagination a ( great result ) can't believe Gardner can't make the bench, Luna may have scored, but out of his comfort zone, will get found out,

Totally agree that Luna despite scoring worries me a little! His playing style is very risky reminds me a little of Alan Wright actually.

Finch

Alan wright played in a successful villa team. I've watched Luna in the pre season and was at the emirates, he will progress quickly. If you're worried that's your issue, he is an attacking full back which carries a risk although I always read about baines and he is just as risky tbh

Iv seen a lot of Luna at mallorca last season he was hit an miss for them too. I still think its 50/50 between him and benett so hopefully they will push each other to get better.

17 Aug 2013 17:04:58
Great result for villa today, although feel we need another midfielder desperately as their was none on the bench today

Sylla injured, tonev can play cam, bacuna can play anywhere, plus gardner too.

17 Aug 2013 10:59:43
Hey guys, Danish Chelseafan here in peace. I want to ask you what you think of your Danes, Okore and Helenius?

More importantly mate, what can you tell us about them?
Okore looks quality from the little I have seen but I have never seen Helenius

Helenius scored 14 goals last season, and he made 7 assists. Okore was one of the best defenders in the Danish League.

Helenius has a lethal right leg, and he's good in the air

I believe helenius will beast good as Benzene when he gets on the pitch although I can't see him getting on other than a subs role while bentekes scoring
And Okore looks really good looking forward to seeing him fully fit

Mendax.

Helenius is very good, two good feet and plenty of ability, can scores goals out of nothing, ball control is great for a tall man.
Just needs a run in the side to find his feet and tempo.

As I have said before, I felt he would have been a good replacement for Benteke had he gone.

I have seen him play many times on live streams and has always impressed me.

villadave

15 Aug 2013 23:07:23
Aiden Mcgeady good fast player-what Lambert wants we were interested in him last summer and with the world cup coming up it THINK it will happen before the end

15 Aug 2013 12:32:13
Any news on Benteke's suspected broken leg yet? Surely wouldn't be a good idea letting Bent go until there is?!

it was just a joke started by a lad on twitter that a bunch of persons believed

The only bones that Benteke has broken are collar bones if you try and stop him scoring.

15 Aug 2013 09:16:56
Darren Bent having medical at Fulham, at last I wish him well he did nothing but good for Villa, but the way we play does not fit it. Thanks Darren all the best

14 Aug 2013 02:04:16
I think you are all missing a trick here read a lot about tonev I admit not seen much but he is a fast two footed skilful player who had two assists against Malaga did he not? could be not be this magic number 10 we are all looking for?

He was a bit greedy in the Malaga game, perhaps he was trying to impress before the season kicks off.

13 Aug 2013 13:11:42
I understand there is no cash left in the budget but a £3m move for Boudabouz would be wise to conclude our business.

As deadline day approaches clubs will realise where they are lacking and buy our misfits. let's not sweat on the Bent situation, come deadline day the likes of Palace, Fulham et al will be in desperate need of a goalscorer and £6m will be a no brainer. Hutton, Ireland and Bannan will follow out the door for another 2m ish and the budget will balance.

We have our goal scorers and its now haggling season, clubs view us as being the desperate party to offload, come september 2nd there will be a number of clubs who will be the more desperate.

I take your point and you may be right
My concern is that we are still a little short ourselves and if we are waiting to offload the dross before we make a move, we could be in real bother again by Christmas
I know we all crave an attacking midfielder but I would not be too unhappy to see a decent centre back and a good holding player in the middle
I have mentioned before that I think Parker would be ideal.

Lets not go for Parker please.

One creative midfielder is really all we need, Delph, Sylla, Herd, Clarke and maybe even Westwood can all fill the holding midfielder role.

We can keep a slim squad with young players getting lots of experience and moulding as a team. We need that player that can cut through a defence with intelligence and flair, what we expected NZogbia could provide.

If we get a 7m plus bid for him we should consider it too I think.

I agree, we have the quantity of player to fill the role but not the quality
Clarke and and Herd are nowhere near as good as Parker
I agree on N'Zogbia as well
He doesn't do anywhere near enough for me

So we're sort of agreeing. I think

13 Aug 2013 08:20:01
Where did it all go wrong mr downing first chance and you jumped ship thanks for the money Liverpool looks like you have took a hit on that one

Made me chuckle murf! I think if he chose to stay at villa and get game time he might of been in a better position with progression of his career both with club an country now.
I never really rated him against the likes of Milner an young anyway.

Finch

12 Aug 2013 08:39:59
Lambert looking at alternatives to Kiyotake (if he is a target) in the form of Boudebouz, ho is a skillful winge / CAM. he is 23
AlexberbUTV

10 Aug 2013 20:37:18
Watched troy deeny today and thought he was fantastic. Anyone think he would be a good signing although we have a few strikers? Just wondering

No

Sorry mate, not this time.

villadave

09 Aug 2013 13:08:50
Owen Coyle on James McClean's reported pay cut upon joining Wigan

"That was fantastic to see in a young man. All too often in football, finance is the motivation for some players. It is great to have someone at your football club who is prepared to take a step back because he believes it will eventually lead to making two forward. "

Take note Barry, Alan et al!
(although they are both useless so would probably fall over taking two steps forward!)

09 Aug 2013 07:31:29
I think Paul Lambert should consider buying Defoe and Kiyotake, then our attack would be solid, Benteke Defoe Helenuis Weimann Agbonlahor Tonev Kiyotake ( 7 to choose from for 4 spaces, injuries and suspensions) to shore il the defence someone solid like kouyouta. A new GK aswell I recommend Pantilomon or Lindergaard

I think you have been spending too much time on FIFA. Come back to earth!

Defoe would be another overpaid bench warmer. We still have enough of those as clearly Bent, Ireland, Hutton, Bannan & Given are all greedy, greedy B*%~#!DS!
We do not need another!

07 Aug 2013 23:37:05
Arsenal 3-2. Villa win. Maybe over positive but I believe we will get a good result, it's the following matches that I think we will struggle with, such a hard start for us. But to be fair everyone has to play each other twice so no excuses.

I'd be happy with a draw

07 Aug 2013 20:47:56
No more signings this window as lambert is happy with what he's got

Kingvilla

So no rodwell? Thought as much

Come on KingVilla
Who do you really support?
Blues, Albion?

No no rodwel. I or my source was wrong. Does every deal you here of cone off.!

King Villa. Why oh why do you do it?
Are you on a sponsored "make yourself look ridiculous" campaign?

Mendax I take it you don't like kingvilla then not allowing him an opinion and all especially as that is why we come on here to give opinions. if you don't like his opinion surely just disagree with him and give your own opinion as to why you disagree not slag the guy/gal off

dave

Dave

No one is slagging anybody off, I agree with Mendax.
Kingvilla makes a statement one day and says completely the opposite the next day, and now he is saying NO more signings, make of that what you will.

villadave

Na mendax is right lads when you quote "people can eat there words" and then the inevitable happens and it turns out you have infact made yourself a buffet of bs to swallow you deserve to get some stick if you had said I have heard rather than making out its the truth, that's what makes it rumour and worthy of a decent opinion. so do you want some sauce with your cra*?

Naturalvillan

In fighting I love it no wonder the team struggles when you guys call each other like this you should try a little comradmanship and get along unless of course your still at school.

derbyshire dave

The bloke from Derby.

We are not fighting mate, we have identified someone who persists in posting rubbish.
If my neighbours have a difference of opinion I keep my nose out.

I suggest you do the same, you have enough problems of your own.

villadave

Dave,
I would never say I dislike Kingvilla. I don't know the guy. He could be a wonderful fella. I also don't need lecturing about respecting other peoples opinions. If you noticed any of my other posts (not that there is any reason you should) I think you would find that I am more than happy to cede to someone elses point of view if it is well argued and well put
What I do dislike is people timewasting. That said, if KingVilla genuinely, 100 % believed that what he was saying was true I would apologise to him without hesitation if he was annoyed/upset by anything I have said in response to his posts
I would however ask him to consider what he is posting, the quantity he is posting and the way he expresses himself as I don't think, that based on the number of people who seem as irked as I do, that he is doing himself any favours

As for Derbyshire Dave, there is a difference between an argument and a row
We are having a conversation on line that would not be described as "in fighting" were it to be in a pub or restaurant after a game

Not as many as you hutton bannan to name two dragging a half decent wage and never looking like getting first team football. priced out of your attempt for a big signing (punching above weight) with that attempt I think and then the parasite benteskey who if ( and I doubt) was to do ok will be off as well as he has ambition and you do not. as for my club yes we have issues but my club is not derby county bless them

derbyshire dave

To mendex, as you say not physically fighting "obviously" you are on line. but if in a pub you spoke the way you made you message sound you may be asked to leave for aggressive behaviour as it does sound like you are rather angry and if I was to imagine you saying that to kingvilla in a pub I would imagine your voice to be raised and you to have an aggressive and argumentative stance. that's all
much love

derbyshire dave

Derbyshire dave, the blue nose on a wind up to hide his jealousy that our club will never fall out of the premier league and are on the up and improving every game.

Derbyshire Dave
You would be wrong
It is possible to express yourself in a friendly manner yet still have a strong viewpoint
Appreciate the love though

Assumptions again ethavfc. I support a prem team far superior to yours but who I support is not relevant we are talking about hutton etc and the other mercenaries in your team. Also the way you attack other people for having an opinion. no mate no jealousy from me far far from it I am looking forward to challenging for silverware especially with our new signings where as your young inexperienced team may struggle again and the truth be known benteskey is not an unknown anymore so will struggle with the defences. but hey I could be wrong we wil;l see. whatever happens you would do better without in the in house arguments or without calling one of your own

dave

Well either way I don't care, why do you seem to think us villa fans (who more often than not have each others back) occasionally disagreeing with each other will make a difference to our performances on the pitch. Also I can't think of a team from any where near the midlands that are far superior to us, therefor you must be a glory hunter who spends half his weekends driving up and down the m6 going to home games, unless of course you're one of the ones that only goes to your teams games when they play somebody local. Whoever or whatever you are, sod of onto your own page and stop worrying about us.

Darbyshire Dave

I'm failing to see what value you bring to this conversation. If we really take a look at what you are rambling about here and strip it back to the bones, you are stating that we Villa fans are fighting and that we have mercenaries at the club.

Firstly, this is an opinion based site and you are entitled to yours, just like king villa is.

However, when you fail to give any credence nor reason to your views, this is when you will be called out.

This has happened time and time again, so king villa will be lambasted for his random wish lists and time wasting.

Funny how he doesn't bite back. isn't it?

Secondly, every club in the world has players that are overpaid and over valued. In an extremely short amount of time, Paul Lambert has transformed Villa from player personnel to the over all winning attitude.

Villa had been set back years by Mc Leish and to think that his reign at our club is a nothing more than a blotch on our record speaks volumes to the job Lambert has done.

It will take time to get the deadwood out, noones doubting that here at AVFC.

So again, what is your point in raising this?

Btw, I would question what kinds of pubs you hang out in. Sounds more like a cricket club or a yacht club to me buddy.

Leroy

Is everybody called dave on this website?!

finch

Finchy.

Only villadave. I am a real "Dave"

Leroy.
having stripped my point to the bones you correctly indicate that I have called out the villa backbiters. deadwood, yes we all have them I was merely suggesting that your deadwood are so dead that they will hang around and keep taking a pay check rather than go and play in the lower divisions for less money (although this may happen with villa). As for lamberts transformation, fighting a relegation battle as you did last year is hardly what most clubs would have wanted transforming into maybe these are the heights you are happy chasing. And as for your last point I don't hang about in cricket clubs etc but neither do I hang around in deluges where the saloon bar scenario takes over and people are shouting and rawping at each other. I appreciate you support villa but surely you cannot class the transitional process so far as successful, if so what happens when you don't have such a successful season, championship football where some of your deadwood players belong. anyway I didn't intend to be antagognistic I originally just wondered why when someone had an opinion on an opinion page why he would be called out by fellow fans in such a fashion as he was when you all share a common ground that being avfc. simple really

dave

Im spartacus

Dave.

I would give it a rest if I was you.

You won`t win mate.

villadave

Derbyshire Dave, you said it best in your last line. "simple really"

Leroy

I was refering to you leroy, villadave this is where I think you go wrong I am conversing with my opinions its not a win or lose situation its someone voicing there opinion/banter on a banter site. my opinion will always be right to me unless someone convinces me different. that hasn't happened and hutton etc are still drawing a decent wage and still will be after the close of the window. that is my opinion

derbyshire dave

Derbydave.

Yes I know what you are saying, and the very reason I said what I said, is you will not convince us you are correct.
Those are your words.

Who do you support then, you say they are a better side than us!
TELL US THEN, and let's see if we agree with you.

villadave

Villadave it isn't an opinion about hutton etc enjoying a wage at a cost to your club it is a fact and they have proved they are happy to kick a ball abput all week with no ambition as they have turned down opportuities to leave for first team football as they would rather the higher wage than ambition which is how we got into this debate this is a fact unless they left last night so not agreeing with a fact is your choice even if is as blatant as it is. I think you are free to think what you like so you don't have to agree with any facts. As for the team I support what relevance dors it have on the above conversation suffice to say for the last ten years or more they have finished well above you ergo they are a superior team
Dave

Derbydave.

Yes correct about Hutton etc, I stated all of what you say three weeks ago so we agree on that.
The team you support would be nice to know so that discussions can continue, but if you don't want to say who they are fine, that's all I will say.
Hope you have a good season

villadave

Villadave you will hate me even more than you do now if I were to reveal the team I support so I say to you good banter thank you, and I wish your project all the best. I think it will come into fruition it is only a quation of when

dave

coys

Derbydave

I don't hate you, you have an opinion and that's how it should be, you make some good points.

I think we will have a good season this year maybe top 10, and if the management and playing staff are left to get on with their job we will improve again next year, PROMISE.

I have enjoyed the banter as well, I am sure something else will crop up and we will hear from you again, hope so anyway?

Still like to know who it is though, go on give us a clue.

villadave

I'm going to go out on a limb and say coys means come on you spurs. what do you think villa Dave?

Lmao

Derbydave.

Well I am surprised to say the least, you support a team with a great tradition like Villa.
I have seen some great games between the two clubs over the years dating back to 1960.
Chivers, Gilzean, etc Spuds have had some great sides.
I still wish you all the best for the coming season, and its been great talking to you.
As far as I am concerned your opinion is welcome on this site anytime.


villadave

Touche villadave I do like to banter and debate it is always interesting to get other fans perceptions on issues especially about your own club. I can only apologise about selling hutton to you guys (not me personally) but I thought he had an ok game last night his main problem isn't going forward its defending which isn't veruy good when your a number 2 for a team. Good luck with the season I truly don't think you will have any issues like last year as I think the young lads you blooded last year will come good. you have a great manager with a good eye for the game in benteke you potentially have a true star who in the near future could earn you a lot of money in one way or another. not that your a selling club (as proven over benteke) but unfortunately when the big boys come knocking we all lose our best players (modric, bale etc) but if the chairman re-invests it eases the pain. hope for a couple of decent games against you and make sure you win your first game (arsenal)
speak soon buddy by for now

derbyshire dave

Derbydave.

Thanks for that, you take care as well mate.
Speak soon.

villadave

07 Aug 2013 17:50:27
So prediction time for arsenal away anybody?

I'm going for 2-2.

Finch

I think we will hit the ground running and win 2 - 1 tekkers and wiemann!

Opps got it wrong it was 3 1 and tekkers and luna come on you villa boyssssss

06 Aug 2013 11:07:08
I know everyone is getting excited about talk of a young attacking midfield player coming in from the continent. But surely I cannot be the only person to believe that someone like Scott Parker would really help this young team navigate a competive Premiership season
We are ignoring the elephant in the room here in that Lambert has added pure youth to an already youthful team
It would be great to think that it will all end perfectly for us but personally, I would take out an insurance policy

I couldn't agree with this more mate, he is exactly what we need along with an AM. He would be a perfect role model for Westwood, Delph & Sylla as he's a great DM aswell as a model professional. However, apart from Newcastle (where he was a bit of a let down) he has played all his football in London, apparently we made enquiries under O'Neill and that was the stumbling block.

Dont know if I agree with that one mendax the whole point is to get everyone on a level playing field wages wise. It keeps the hunger going and if you perform you get more (benteke weimann etc). and parker probably wouldn't come for less than 40 grand a week he's hardly a superstar for the players to look up to. Though he is solid we have a lot of pace in the side now with some hard hitting midfielders mixed in. Young players means fresh ideas and a lot have already proved that experience counts for nothing if you can play you can play. Personally i'm happy with the squad as it is maybe kiyotake in to give the forwards some bread and bitter.

Naturalvillan

I can see your point Naturalvillain
I just feel we could do with an older head when it gets a bit difficult away at Chelsea, Man United etc
Parker always comes across well off the pitch as well
I think he only has a year left on his contract at Spurs so I think we could get him for less than the 40k a week you quote by offering the right package (ie 2-3 years with the option of a coaching role)
Parker just seems like the kind of guy, in terms of ability and attitude that, I would want around young players

Naturalvillan & Mendax.

This brings it all home now.

Here we are talking about experienced players like Parker etc to stabilise our young team in their hour of need.

And yet we had one of the best, our beloved man "STAN" what a shame he will not play again.

He would of been great in this squad, the young with pace and energy, and Stan the brains and know how.

villadave

Yep, I'd go along with that Dave. Parker and Petrov are cut from similar cloth

I think parker and wijnuldum would complete our squad nicley once the likes of bent ireland given hutton delfonso bannan stevens are moved on.

I agree brains is always a good factor to have and perhaps we do still need a leader out there but i'm still pleased with how were doing things and I believe that we have a lot of goals in the team for this season with okore looking briefly solid at the back and the bearded tony moon we may have the goods to stop the goals at the wrong end. We have no real issue in midfield westy can pass like gerrard, sylla an delph could tackle a lion and with gardner looking like he's been playin for 20 years and stayin off the med table we could be quite tight. were only short a real playmaker no?

Naturalvillan

I agree with mendax Parker would be a great player he is underrated by many but he would give the young lads the advice they need as he has been around the block abit and would be able to tell them the grass isent greener at the bigger clubs from his chelsea days. I have seen a link for Omar Abdulrahman as well that would be a great bit of business by pl if he could pull that off but I believe Arsenal are trying to get him on a trial at the mo.
VILLABOI

06 Aug 2013 06:27:17
I agree - I read this site for the good and the bad rumours. For me it's all good banter around supporting a football team. It's just a bit of fun, nobody is getting paid to get it right, nobody dies if they're wrong and allow the nobodies among us to judge for ourselves that some Are just plain ridiculous. Rowell to Villa - my arse!

05 Aug 2013 21:19:24
Once the dead wood has gone why don't the Villa sign Tom Ince from Blackpool. he fits the bill perfectly. young, hungry and English. I'm sure he would cost less than Jack Rodwell (sic) and also he has a good goals to game ratio which we need from midfield.

Would love to see a player of tom inces quality and further potential at villa. It'l be interesting to see who he's playing for come the end of this window.
Finch

05 Aug 2013 19:00:43
I really really want to believe the rumours entered on this site, but, as others have posted on here, we need some semblence of truth behind them. Anybody can put on here that so-and so is signing and yes it raises the excitement level. However could someone, anyone, get a real rumour!

05 Aug 2013 13:18:29
Kingvilla wheres rodwell? I thought it was going to be confirmed today? There won't be any more signings until the wage bill has been lowered the likes of Bent, Ireland Given, Bannan and the fonz are gone I expect there to be a late addition to the squad by pl.
VILLABOI

04 Aug 2013 18:10:01
Celtic fan here, just wondering how you think you will get on this season under Lamborghini. Benteke staying is brilliant work but weren't there a number of fans who questioned lambert when he signed him last year? Seems to have a good scouting network for you.

I personally haven't questioned any of lamberts signings, our scouts are finding players that cost us pennies in comparison to what we'd have to pay for the same quality of players from the prem. its a working progress so i'm not expecting huge jumps up the league, but one thing is for certain we will go forward rather than backward, and will no doubt continue to do so until we are back where we belong. I'd say good luck for the coming season but that's just pointless as you're clearly going to win now that rangers aren't anywhere near the league. But none the less all the best in all competitions!

03 Aug 2013 16:50:04
this isn't a rumour more of a shout-out

well done watford for showing bcfc just how bad they are this afternoon.

awful showing from the blues and they will be looking at relegation this season

i love blues losing nearly as much as villa winning. great start to the season

bring on arsenal we will win 3-2

Be careful mate. You don't want to tip over to the point where you want your hatred rivals to lose more than you want to win
That, surely, is the preserve of the Bluenose?

02 Aug 2013 13:09:01
So where is this Jack Rodwell news or was it all rubbish.

I think you've answered your own question there mate

01 Aug 2013 20:54:44
bents wages will be a major stumbling block thou got to laugh at newcastles offer 2 mill cheapskates

I have a sneaky suspicion that most of the bomb squad are playing our club like a fiddle.

They are making things difficult for the buying club knowing that at Villa park their wages are guaranteed whether they are playing with the youth or their fat arses are warming the bench.

Bent is maybe the exception to the rule here, but Bannan, Ireland, Hutton, etc, etc should look in the mirror and man up, get their heads together and move on.

I don`t like harping on about things but these guys are taking the P--s.

Football is a business and should be run like a business, if you or I don`t perform we are sacked, and its about time this should be implemented into the game of football.

villadave

It is all about contracts. When they want players stick to the contract that they signed, so they are not taking the p as you so state. When they want to break a contract they get their agent to look elsewhere. UNfortunately they can all stay and take the money, as a lot of workers do when protected by law. I personally would like to see them gone quickly, but unless we give them a "free" so that another club can do their own deals, they will stay put and take the money.

Sorry mate.

I still think they are taking the P--s

And I know its all about contracts, as I have stated in many posts.
I think my feelings about contracts are well known on this site.

"THEY NEED CHANGING"


villadave

01 Aug 2013 16:07:19
Kingvilla

Your post said we were waiting for bent to go to free up funds and now you've said thre will be more after these if bent etc go, make up your mind

Josh

Josh you have to press the reply to this post button for it to put it on the same thread, you've done it twice so I thought i'd help you out

Josh, ethAVFC, Villamurf and others,

This Kingvilla contact knows nothing. I've been working in professional football for over 6 years now and he has absolutely no idea what he's talking about. Claims to know everything and talks so confidently, when really he is clueless. Stick your on truths and professions gents.

Azza

01 Aug 2013 09:03:23
Geroginio Wijnaldum is holding talks with Avfc over a possible 8-12m move. He is perfect for both Lamberts philosophy and also has experience. All round player.

Thats a fairly rough estimate of the fee. you sure this isn't just reverberating other rumours and slapping on the amount?

Leroy

31 Jul 2013 23:55:13
Just a suggestion for a fairly unknown AM is florent cuvellier from stoke. He's young hungry got great potential and would cost not a mega amount say 2-4 mill if stoke play hard ball. He has been on loan at Walsall and championship club last season I think. Check him out on YouTube. No haters please just a suggestion like the Dutch guy.

Tall villan 92

Fair play mate. Havnt seen or heard much or anything about him to be honest.

Im not of the habit of rating players using youtube, but what kind of game does he possess?

If he has a pass on him, can take a pop at goal and has a good engine its a start.

Leroy

He has both abilities you listed, used to watch him on the football league show due to my partners dad and my grandad r. i. p being saddlers. He was a cracking player when he was on loan at walsall. Quality in Manchester United tht season.

I actually put Manchester United but it got changed to Man United how funny :D my mistake